WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.000 music...I love copyright. Not many people do. 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:08.000 I love talking about it. I love reading about it and I love studying about it. 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:12.000 But I have to start with that although I know quite a bit about copyright 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:14.000 I'm not an expert, nor am I a lawyer. 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:17.000 So anything I say today please don't take as legal advice. 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:23.000 I'm just I'm giving you information that I know and that I've learned before. 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:26.000 Usually when I talk about copyright on campus 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:29.000 I'm talking with students, or faculty or librarians. 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:32.000 And it usually has to do with scholarship and research, 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:35.000 assignments that their doing. 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:38.000 Maybe a research that their publishing. Can they use someone's copyrighted work? 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:43.000 Or in library, we talk about how do we provide things to our students. 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:46.000 without infringing copyright. 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:48.000 And so those people 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:52.000 all have this wide latitude of things they can use. 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:56.000 Because there are special exceptions in copyright law 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:62.000 for teaching and research. And also they can make fair use. 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:05.000 Fair use is kind of, almost written from them. 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:07.000 So they can use fair use very broadly. 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:12.000 But there are other people on campus that aren't actively involved 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:16.000 in the actual teaching in the classroom and they also want to use copyrighted work. 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:20.000 So if you're doing something; you're creating a webpage 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:23.000 or blogpost or you're creating pamphlets or fliers 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:27.000 you also want to use someone else's copyrighted work. 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:31.000 And I started getting a lot of questions about this from people on campus. 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:36.000 So rather than giving individual answers maybe I could do a workshop of something. 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:38.000 And give everybody the same information at the same time. 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:44.000 And of course, as luck happens, I didn't get a single question after that. 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:48.000 But anyway, I'm here today to talk with you about 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.000 using copyrighted work in both types of environments. 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:56.000 Not in the actual classroom. And so, kinda one of the questions 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:60.000 that I got was...it wasn't exactly like this but...here we found an image online 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:01.000 can we use it in a blogpost.? 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:06.000 But before I start that, I need to tell you a little bit about copyright itself. 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.000 So I'm going to talk about that for a little bit. 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:12.000 And then tell you a little bit about creative commons licenses 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:15.000 and how they work. And then we'll go into the computer 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:18.000 and actually search some different websites. 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:21.000 These are some things that you need to know about copyright. 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:25.000 First of all, copyright happens instantaneously. 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:28.000 So as soon as the counter roll starts rolling 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:31.000 and my picture is caught on tape forever 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:34.000 then that is automatically copyrighted. 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:38.000 As soon as a painter starts painting, it's automatically copyrighted. 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:41.000 You don't have to have a copyright symbol on it. 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.000 You don't have to register it with the copyright office. 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:48.000 It's automatically copyrighted. So I often see, or hear people say 00:02:48.000 --> 00:02:52.000 oh, I found it online but there wasn't a copyright symbol so I can use it. 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:56.000 And, well, no. Ever since 1978, you have to, 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:59.000 it automatically attaches to whatever you're doing. 00:02:59.000 --> 00:02:64.000 And secondly, copyright lasts for a long time. A really long time. 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:08.000 Right now in the Uniited States copyright last for authors, 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:13.000 human beings, copyright lasts for your lifetime plus an additional 70 years. 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:16.000 So that's a very, very long time. 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:20.000 If you create something, if it's corporate work 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:24.000 that's 120 years. And corporate work is probably what a lot of you do. 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:28.000 If you're job is to create blogposts, 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:32.000 if it's to create pamphlets for the university, then that's corporate work. 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:36.000 Even though you're doing it; you're putting your creativity into it, 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:40.000 the university owns that work. So the copyright goes to the university. 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:43.000 And so that lasts for 120 years. 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:47.000 So because of those two things, because it attaches instantaneously 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:50.000 and because it lasts such a long time, it's probably best to assume 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:53.000 that everything on the Internet is copyrighted. 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:57.000 So anytime your find something on the Internet and you want to use it 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:62.000 it's probably going to be copyrighted. So just keep that in mind. 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:08.000 But, there are some things that can't be copyrighted. 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:12.000 Either they can't be copyrighted in the first place 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:14.000 or the copyright duration has expired. 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:18.000 So those things are then in the public domain. 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:24.000 If its lost its copyright, its copyright has expired or if it could never be copyrighted in the first place. 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:27.000 And I think there's some confusion about that term public domain. 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:31.000 Again, people will go online and they say, well, I found it on the Internet and that's in the public 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:35.000 so its in the public domain, and no. 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:39.000 So let me show you some of the things that can't be copyrighted. 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:43.000 First of all, ideas can't be copyrighted because ideas aren't fixed. 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:48.000 Remember how I said copyright attaches instantaneously. Well, it has to be fixed. 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.000 Fixed in some type of format. 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:57.000 So if I just say, I'm going to write a story about two star-crossed lovers on The Titanic. 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:60.000 And I'm going to have one be very, very weathly. 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.000 I think I'll have the woman be very, very wealthy and the boy, 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.000 the guy, be very, very poor. 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:09.000 And I'll think one of them is going to die at the end. 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:12.000 But one of them is going to live. Those are ideas. 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:17.000 And I can do that. But once I start calling them Jack and Rose and have them 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:20.000 going through the same types of things that 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:24.000 the author who originally wrote that story. 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:28.000 Then, that is no longer an idea. That's actually called a manifestation 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:32.000 which you don't need to know. But, anyways, no longer an idea. Ideas can't be copyrighted 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:36.000 Also facts can't be copyrighted. 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:38.000 So anything that's a fact, so like box scores. 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:42.000 Calendars can't be copyrighted. Height and weight charts. 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:46.000 Salem is the capitol of Oregon. That can't be copyrighted. 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.000 George Washington was the first president. That can't be copyrighted. 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:56.000 So if it's a fact. If you find a chart, a graph 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:58.000 an excel chart and you have data in there 00:05:58.000 --> 00:05:61.000 all that data is in the public doman. 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:08.000 That's why researchers when their doing research don't share their data sets with 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:12.000 other researchers because someone could pull that data out 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:16.000 and do research on that data themselves. So that can't be copyrighted. 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:20.000 One other thing though, the way that it's set up 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:24.000 if someone makes a beautiful chart using that data, that could be copyrighted. 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:26.000 but the actual raw data can't be. 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:30.000 Another thing that can't be copyrighted and are already in the public domain 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:32.000 are works by the federal government. 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:34.000 So anyone who works for the federal government and creates something 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:37.000 it's automatically in the public domain. 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:41.000 So the constitution is in the public domain. 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:44.000 President's speeches are in the public domain. 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:45.000 Congressional hearing are in the public domain. 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:51.000 Court decesions are in the public domain. But that's just for federal. 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:56.000 There are some states, and I believe Oregon is one that claim copyright on their laws 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:60.000 and different things that are created. But anything from the federal government 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:02.000 is in the public domain. When it's in the public domain 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:05.000 you can use it for any purpose that you want. 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:07.000 You don't even need to attribute it to anybody. 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:10.000 Now, if you're a scholar or researcher, 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:16.000 the scholarly standards are you do have to cite it but 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:20.000 but if you're just using something in the public domain 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:22.000 for a blogpost you don't even have to cite it. 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:28.000 And then lastly, things that were created before 1923 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.000 have fallen into the public domain. 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:33.000 So you can find a lot of historical types of photos. 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:39.000 This one is actually the boys and girls pig club from Oregon State. 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:41.000 So it can be used for any purpose. 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:44.000 And then there are some things that you will hear 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.000 about copyright that really, they are not true. 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.000 So you might have heard some of these things. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:52.000 One is, if I cite my source I'm not infringing copyright. 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:55.000 So if I put on there who created this then 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:58.000 I'm not infringing copyright. Yes, you are. 00:07:58.000 --> 00:07:61.000 If your use is infringing copyright. 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:04.000 So citing it doesn't make it not infringing copyright. 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:06.000 Then also this is the one I heard today. 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:12.000 So if I change the image a certain percentage or if I only use a certain number of words 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:16.000 or if I only use 30 seconds of a song or something 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:19.000 then I'm not infringing copyright. 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:24.000 And there is no where in copyright law where it says here is a specific number 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:28.000 of things you can do or a specific percentage that you have 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:32.000 to change something, no. So if anyone ever tells you anything about numbers 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:35.000 and copyright, most likely, not true. 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:40.000 And the last thing, so If I'm not making money, I can't be infringing on copyright. 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:42.000 Again, not true. 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:45.000 There are some times when people have made lots of money, 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:47.000 hundreds of thousands of dollars, 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:52.000 and still been able to use someone's copyrighted work because they were doing it through fair use. 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:56.000 Which were not going to talk about today. There are sometimes 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:60.000 when you can make fair use of images even with pamphlets 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:04.000 and things like that. But for the most part fair use is going to be 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:08.000 used in the classroom more than the type of work that you'll be doing. 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:12.000 And then the very last thing about copyright, 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:17.000 Get out my visuals here. Copyright is actually a bundle of rights. 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:21.000 So with my presentation I have the right to reproduce it. 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:24.000 So I can put it on a jump drive. I can put it in Google Drive. 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:29.000 I can put it on my computer at home. So I have that. 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:32.000 Then I can also distribute it. 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:35.000 So if I want to I can give you all a copy of it. 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:39.000 I can put it online so anybody can use it if they want to. 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:43.000 I can give it to all my librarian friends. 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:46.000 If they want to do something with it. So I can distribute it 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:52.000 Then I can display it like I'm doing right now. I'm displaying it in this room. 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:55.000 Maybe I should lay these down. 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:59.000 Then the other thing is I can perform it, 00:09:59.000 --> 00:09:65.000 Now some things you write or create, you wouldn't perform it, 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:08.000 like if you took a photo. You don't really perform a photo 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:12.000 But choreography, if someone wrote down choreography 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:16.000 then they would have the right to have dancers perform that choreography. 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:19.000 And the last thing is I have the right to create derivatives. 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:22.000 So if I decide I want to write an article about this 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:26.000 I can write an article about this particular presentation. 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:32.000 So what I can do when I have all these things is I can say, ok I'm going to let you 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:36.000 you can reproduce it. And I'm going to give you the ability to reproduce it. 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.000 And I'm going to give you the ability to distribute it. 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:39.000 And I can pass these on. 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.000 You can make derivaties, Weiwei. 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:47.000 You can perform my copyrighted work and you can display it. 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:52.000 So I can just break it all up like that if I want to. 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:56.000 But then when I've broken it all up like that what do I have left? 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:60.000 I don't have anything. So if I transfer it to someone, I don't have anything. 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:03.000 And that happens a lot with authors who are 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:05.000 turning over their books to a publisher. 00:11:05.000 --> 00:11:10.000 They transfer all their copyright and then they're at the mercy of that pubisher. 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:16.000 But, so instead, what I'm going to do, I'm going to take all my copyright back. 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.000 Thank you. 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:24.000 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:26.000 So instead what I'm going to do, I'm going to keep all of this. 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:31.000 And I can just give you permission, so I'm just going to give you a license. 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:36.000 So here's a license. So I get to keep my copyright but I give you a lisence. 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.000 And I can put down any terms that I want on that. 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:43.000 I can say okay you can distribute this but you can only distribute it within 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:48.000 the Pacific Northwest for the next 30 days and you're going to have to pay me $200,000 to do that. 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:52.000 So. And I can either do it exclusively or non-exclusively. 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:55.000 So I can say you're the only one who can do that 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:59.000 or I can have a bunch of licenses and let a whole bunch of people do that. 00:11:59.000 --> 00:11:64.000 So. That's my spiel about copyright. Are there any questions so far? 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:13.000 Ok. How many of you have heard of or have used creative commons licenses? 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:17.000 Ok. Alright. So we are going to talk about licenses. 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:19.000 So before creative commons licenses 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:24.000 before about 15-20 years ago, if you wanted to use someone's work 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.000 you had to either fall into one of those exceptions, 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:32.000 use it under fair use or you had to ask for permission. 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:35.000 And before the Internet you can imagine that was really difficult. 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:39.000 It took a lot of time. You couldn't find people. And it was really a pain. 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:43.000 But with the Internet and everybody started creating things and putting them online. 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.000 And people really wanted to start sharing their work. 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:50.000 Creative commons licenses were developed. 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:54.000 This is a way you can put a license on your piece, whatever it is. 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:60.000 And the little license tells whoever looks at that what you can do with it. 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:04.000 There's certain restrictions. But it's been a lifesaver 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:08.000 for people who want to use things. And it's absolutely fantastic. 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:13.000 I'll show you a slide but it started about 10-15 years ago 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:18.000 and we're already up to about a billion different things on the web have creative commons licenses. 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.000 Let me show you this. 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:24.000 Creative commons licenses have certain restrictions. 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.000 So there's public domain. And those are the things I told you about 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:31.000 you can use anyway you want to. You don't have to attribute it. 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.000 Just do whatever you want with it. 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.000 Every other creative commons license has this restriction. 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:40.000 You have to attribute the person. 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:43.000 So you always have to tell who created that. 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.000 Public domain you don't have to. Everything else you do. 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.000 So that's attribution and that's by, so we call that a cc-by license. 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:55.000 Then, if you want to share-alike. That means 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:60.000 if that share-alike license is on there, then if I use it 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:04.000 and I create something then I have to put that exact same 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:07.000 license on whatever I've made using that. 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:13.000 And then this one is no derivatives which means you have to use it as it is. 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:16.000 You can't change it or anything, unless you're using it for fair use. 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:18.000 Which we're not going to cover. So you can't change it. 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.000 And then non-commercial use. 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.000 Which means you can't charge someone to get to that or to access that. 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:28.000 So those are all the restrictions for creative commons licenses. 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:32.000 And then what has been done 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:36.000 is they been mixed and matched to make 6 creative commons licenses 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.000 other than the public domain. And here they are. 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:45.000 Because it talks about, at the top up their, it tells you what you can and can't do with this item. 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:48.000 So for public domain you can see you can copy and publish it. 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:52.000 You don't have to attribute it to the creator. 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.000 You can use it for commercial use. You can modify it and adapt it. 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:60.000 And you can change the license. You don't have to have the same license. 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:04.000 And so we go down and these top four 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:06.000 I've already kind of talked about. 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:08.000 But these two are the ones I haven't. 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:11.000 So this one is where we've combined them, 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:14.000 non-commercial and share-alike. 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:18.000 So if you're going to use it, you can't charge people access to it. 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:21.000 And then you also have to use the same license. 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:24.000 And the last one is non-commercial, non-derivative. 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:28.000 So non-commercial and you also can't change it. 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:31.000 So these are all the different types of licenses you'll find on things. 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:35.000 Because we're a state agency, are we considered a commercial entity 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:37.000 when you're using things? 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:40.000 Actually, the wording says that you can't 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:42.000 charge access to the item. 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:48.000 So if you're going to use something and then charge people to purchase that 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:52.000 you can't do that. But even the commercial agency 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:56.000 can use things, as long as they aren't using that 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:58.000 to make something that they want to charge for. 00:15:58.000 --> 00:15:60.000 Does that make sense? Ok. 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:04.000 So here's the graph I was talking about starting in 2006. 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:07.000 That's after about 5 or 6 years. 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:12.000 After is was launched 50 million, like I said, now were up to 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:15.000 a billion. This was 4-years-old. 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:20.000 Also I want to point out, when I said that creative commons licenses 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:24.000 every single on of them, except for the public domain, you have to attribute. 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:25.000 This is the way they like to have then attributed. 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:29.000 Putting the title of the item. 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:32.000 Add you actually put the url so the person 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:36.000 who this can then use that link 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:39.000 to go back and find this particular image again. 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:42.000 Then you put by whoever it's by. 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:45.000 And a lot of times, if it's from someone like from Flicker 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:49.000 they might have their name is Joe 36. 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:52.000 So, look and see if you can find their actual name. 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:56.000 But you might be putting things like Joe36. 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:59.000 If they're on Flicker, they probably also have a link 00:16:59.000 --> 00:16:63.000 to all of their images. And I'll show you that in a little bit. 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:06.000 Then you also put the url to that. 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.000 But in this particular image 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:13.000 creative commons, the company themselves, made this and they didn't have a link to their images. 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:16.000 And then the last thing you put is 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:20.000 what type of license it was released under. 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:24.000 So this was released under an attribution 4.0 which is a cc by. 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:27.000 And 4.0 is just a version. Of course we started with 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:32.000 creative commons licenses 1.0 and so on. 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:36.000 So. The rest of the time we are going to spend 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:39.000 just looking for images that you can use. 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:44.000 So usually what you can use and not really be concerned about is 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.000 creative commons licenses. As long as you're following the license. 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:51.000 And then things in the public domain. And that's what we're going to be looking for today. 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:54.000 And some of you might know more sights than I even do. 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.000 Because that's not my area of expertise. 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:59.000 Copyright is my area of expertise. But I do know some. 00:17:59.000 --> 00:17:63.000 And I wanted to show them to you and also show you how you can find the licenses 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:05.000 so you know what you can and can't use. 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:10.000 The first one, and the one I use most of the time, is Google Images. 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:14.000 And then once you're to the page with all the images 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:20.000 You can find licenses here in the settings but it's a little bit more difficult. 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.000 The easiest way is to click on tools. 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:26.000 And then clock on usage rights. 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:29.000 And here it has various usage rights. 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.000 And these are labeled for reuse with modification, 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:37.000 reuse, non-commercial, non-commercial reuse, 00:18:37.000 --> 00:18:40.000 I've played with these and you get about the same results 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:47.000 no matter which one you click on. So I would click on that. 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:50.000 And then up at the top, they have all these different 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:52.000 types that you can look for. 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:55.000 So if you want a symbol, a thumbs up symbol. 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:57.000 you can get that. 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:60.000 And then when you want to take it off, just click on this x. 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:04.000 One thing to be aware of though, let me see... 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:06.000 So here's something about Garfield. 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:09.000 Oh yeah and Mickey Mouse, too. 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:12.000 Garfield and Mickey Mouse and things like that are 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:13.000 protected by copyright. 00:19:13.000 --> 00:19:16.000 So when I clicked and I thought, ok, these aren't really Garfield. 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:19.000 But there was one down here. 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:24.000 So if you go to the image 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:28.000 you need to check the license and they way you do that 00:19:28.000 --> 00:19:33.000 is first you visit the page. 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:37.000 And then on Flicker it will have a little symbol down here. 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:41.000 On most websites it's going to be over here. 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.000 But on Flicker it's down here where it says some rights reserved. 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:50.000 And when it says some rights reserved that means it has a creative commons license on it. 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:54.000 And so they just have cc by which means all you have to do is attribute them. 00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:60.000 Their might be a problem with that particular image if you used it 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:04.000 in a way that suggested you 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:06.000 might be Jim Davis. 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:12.000 So if you were using it, you probably shouldn't use it to endorse something 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:16.000 like put it with Fancy Feast cat food. 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:20.000 Because it kind of looks like Garfield is endorsing that. 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:24.000 The other one I saw, it was an actual cartoon picture and she had 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:28.000 copied, she was practicing her own work but she'd 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:32.000 looked exactly like Garfield and had the words coming out. I think it was burp. 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:36.000 Exactly like Jim Davis did it. And that would be a problem. 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:40.000 So you have to be a little bit careful when you're looking for things. 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:44.000 But most of the time you'll find them and they will be fine. 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:47.000 So now the first thing were going to do is I want you to go to Google 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:52.000 And search on wolf. See what kind of images you can find for wolf. 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:56.000 Find one and see if you can find the creative commons license. 00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:61.000 So the question was when you use the drop down 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:05.000 does it matter which one of those you choose? 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:08.000 You know I find there's not much difference in choosing any of them. 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:12.000 Sometimes I use one; sometimes I use another. It doesn't really matter. 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.000 Weiwei asked what is royalty-free? 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:18.000 And I was kind of confused by that. I thought you could use it for free. 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:24.000 But what it means is you've paid money for it and you can now use it anyway you want. 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:27.000 It's also like having it become public domain to you. 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:32.000 But, you've paid money. If it's royalty-free, you've paid money. 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:35.000 I at first thought you get to use it for free, but no. 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:39.000 Sometimes when you go into a site and you click on something 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:41.000 Oh, I like this picture over here so you click on that. 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:45.000 It will take you to a site where you pay money. So you have to be aware of that. Watch for that. 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:48.000 It will take you to a site where you pay money. So you have to be aware of that. Watch for that. 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.000 Always be able to find that creative commons or public domain license. 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:55.000 There's one site that I'm going to show you today where that's not there. 00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:57.000 For the most part you should be able to find a license. 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:61.000 Kathleen found an image that was actually in Wikimedia commons. 00:22:01.000 --> 00:22:04.000 And Wikimedia commons has 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:07.000 all the pictures that are in Wikipedia are put in Wikimedia. 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:12.000 And they are all either creative commons or public domain. 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:15.000 But when you go into Wikimeda commons it looks a bit different than what I've been talking about. 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.000 But you'll find the license and different things. 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:23.000 Alright, let me show you one thing you might find on Google Images. 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:26.000 So here we have a picture and this looks really good. 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:32.000 I want this picture. You might actually come to a site like this where 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:36.000 the picture is embedded into the reader's digest or into a blog 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:40.000 post or something. So it doesn't take you to the item itself. 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:43.000 Actually, looking at this one, it says it's an official White House photo 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:47.000 by Chuck Kennedy. So I know it's in the public domain 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:50.000 because the White House, for the one that I'm using. 00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:54.000 But the one that you were looking for didn't. 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:56.000 If you right click on the photo 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:60.000 And you go to view image info 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:04.000 sometimes you'll be able to find information about who 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:08.000 created this under security. And so it might 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:12.000 show you the original website and the owner. This one says 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:15.000 this website does not supply ownership information. 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:20.000 I wouldn't use this. Except that I know it's in the public domain because it's from the White House. 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:24.000 The next site that I found, that I found recently. 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:26.000 How many of you have seen visualhunt? 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:28.000 Yeah. They've got beautiful photographs. 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.000 and they're really high resolution. 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:32.000 And a lot of the things on there are creative commons 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:34.000 but a lot of them are also public domain. 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:40.000 So visualhunt is fabulous. They have beautiful, beautiful things. 00:23:40.000 --> 00:23:44.000 And here's where you download it. And here's where the license is. 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:48.000 Here it is, public domain, dedication. So you can use this for whatever you want. 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:54.000 They also want you to attribute it. Of course, they want you to attribute it to this website. 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:57.000 Again, trying to go back and find the author 00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:60.000 sometimes it's impossible. So if you're citing 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:04.000 do the best you can. But you wouldn't put a creator's name on this one. 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:08.000 So why don't you do to visualhunt. All you have to do is visualhunt, google it. 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:12.000 Google it. And look for some different image. 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:16.000 It's got beautiful, high-resolution photographic images. 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:20.000 So we found another one that doesn't have 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.000 any licensing information. Underneath is says NPS. 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:26.000 If you look at the top of the page, it says National Park Service. 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:32.000 That's a federal organization and it's in the public domain. 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:36.000 And often times when I work with faculty and students I'll say 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:40.000 if you're kind of in doubt, if you like you're right, go ahead. 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:43.000 Because there is a law that says if you think you're doing something 00:24:43.000 --> 00:24:46.000 and you think it's a fair use for educations 00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:50.000 then you can't be held liable. So I say go ahead. 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:55.000 But for people who are producing things that go online or pamphlets 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:59.000 and things like that if there's any doubt, I probably wouldn't use it. 00:24:59.000 --> 00:24:61.000 It's very unlikely that someone would find you or see you or catch you. 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:06.000 But as a public university we want to be on our best behavior. 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:10.000 So I would recommend do it. 00:25:10.000 --> 00:25:13.000 Another thing to know is that if you're using something you shouldn't be 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:17.000 you're not going to be sued. You don't have to worry about that. 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:22.000 Copyright has to be adjudicated in federal court. 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:28.000 So at minimum you're going to have to spend 10s of thousand of . 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:31.000 So someone like Disney is not going to try 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:35.000 go after you because you don't have much money. 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:37.000 So they're going to write you a letter say please take this down. 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:41.000 Don't worry about being sued. But do, follow the rules. 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:48.000 Faculty and students can use Disney because maybe they will be studying 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:52.000 the cultural stereotypes in Disney films so they have to actually use it. 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:58.000 But there's very little that you could actually be using Disney things for. 00:25:58.000 --> 00:25:60.000 So it's funny that I have a 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.000 photograph up here that I can use because I'm in a classroom 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:08.000 and I'm teaching. Even though it's not 00:26:08.000 --> 00:26:12.000 in the curriculum. But I'm in a classroom teaching and so 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:15.000 if you're in a classroom and you're teaching there's an exception 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.000 that allows you to display anything you want. 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:23.000 So I can display, I can use photographs in my presentation that you can't use 00:26:23.000 --> 00:26:26.000 on your website. Things like that. 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.000 Alright. I'll show you another one of my favorites. 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:32.000 So this is the noun project. 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:36.000 And I have a really good friend who uses this all the time. 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:40.000 And here's one of her posters using the noun project. 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:43.000 Very clean, very simple and easy to read. 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:46.000 And I've used the noun project for a lot of things. 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:49.000 Actually, what is it is, is clipart and icons 00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:52.000 for just about anything. You search in there 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.000 There are some things down here that are kind of cool. 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:60.000 Especially icons in your workflow. You can actually have it over 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.000 on the side of your google sheet, google doc or google slides, if you want to. 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.000 However, you have to pay for that service. 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:11.000 I downloaded it to see what I would get. And I go a hundred. 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.000 So if I want to use anymore than that, then you have to pay for it...so. 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:19.000 All these things down here you have to pay for so I probably wouldn't do it...but. 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:23.000 I'm going to search for thumbs up again. 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:28.000 You can see that there are 2184 different icons of thumbs up. 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:32.000 And I can choose one. Say I choose this one. 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:36.000 It has a creative commons license. It shows you right here. 00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:40.000 And it tells you a little bit about creative commons licenses. 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.000 And you can either use a creative commons license 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.000 and use this or you can use it royalty-free. 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.000 And they're very inexpensive. So for $1.99 you can buy this 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:54.000 and it could be just like it was in the public domain for you. 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:60.000 However, if you just want to use it for free 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.000 download as a png or svg. 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:08.000 So when you click on png, you'll get 2 different buttons. 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:12.000 One will say royalty-free. And if you click on that one 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:16.000 you have to pay $1.99. Otherwise the other will say creative commons 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:20.000 you click on that one and it will download and open the piece 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:24.000 up on your computer. And here's my license. 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:28.000 I can pay $1.99 for it or I can just use it with creative commons. 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:30.000 And if you don't know the difference, there's a link there for you. 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:36.000 Just click on this. Open it. 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:40.000 And there it is. And you can just dump this 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.000 into photoshop and remove that if you want. 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.000 But what they actually say 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:46.000 they also give you 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:48.000 they actually give you a credit 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.000 right here that you can copy and past. 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.000 So if you don't want to put it on 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.000 your website or blogpost, you can put it underneath 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.000 or anywhere you put the credits. 00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:63.000 So you can remove that one off the actual icon and then use this one. 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.000 So the question is, if you have a facebook page 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.000 and you're putting something on there. Right? Right. 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:15.000 If you have a facebook page, you need to find something that has a creative commons license 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.000 or it has public domain. Does that make sense? Uh hum. 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:23.000 So you could use one of those icons easily on a facebook page. Ok. 00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:28.000 So the question is, if you go to WOU and are looking at photos 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:32.000 that Marcom has put online, can you use those or not? 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:36.000 And it you look down at copyright it says Diane Stephenson 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:40.000 photography/videography. So that depends on 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:43.000 what arrangement Diane Stephenson made with the university. 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:47.000 If Diane said I am going to take all these photos but I'm going to maintain copyright 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.000 then you need to ask her for permission. 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:56.000 If Diane Stephenson said okay you pay me $2,000, I'll take all these photos and then I'll give them to you. 00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:60.000 Then, the university owns the copyright and you'd have to ask the university. 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.000 Unless they know. So that's kind of a tricky one. 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:09.000 So I would say it would be great if the university would make that a little bit clearer. 00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.000 So if you find a picture of people. 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:16.000 Can you just use it? And there are 2 issues here. 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:20.000 The copyright of the image itself. And then the 00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:23.000 privacy of the people who have been photographed. 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:28.000 Anytime you're anywhere where you're in the public 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:30.000 you're out in the public. 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:35.000 You cannot expect that everything you do is going to be private. 00:30:35.000 --> 00:30:40.000 So if I go out on campus and I take photos of students walking around 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.000 I don't have to worry about privacy with that. 00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:48.000 However, if I'm in a small room like this and 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.000 let's see, Dr. Fuller because he's a very public figure 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.000 and I was taking pictures of him for something 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:60.000 then he does, can expect to have some privacy 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:01.000 because we're in a small room and it's just the 2 of us. 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:04.000 But if you're out and about anywhere, if you're at Disneyland 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:08.000 people can take pictures of you without asking permission. 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:11.000 So if you find one and they have taken a picture of someone 00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.000 and it's a creative commons or public domain, you're free to use it. 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:21.000 So if you are looking at an article and there's a picture of Brad Hill... 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:24.000 Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. 00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:28.000 If there's nothing on there that tells you. You don't see any creative commons 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:32.000 or any public domain. You have to ask 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.000 the photographer, not Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie. 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:36.000 You have ask the photographer. 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:40.000 Again, they're huge stars. They can't expect 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:43.000 to have privacy and that's why they're always covering their faces. 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:48.000 Because any photograph taken of them out in the public is legal. 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.000 So we've seen some different things where we've looked at 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:56.000 to google image search and looked at things. And then we came to 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:60.000 an article where there was a photograph 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:02.000 but we have no information about the licensing. 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:04.000 Then you need to be careful. 00:32:04.000 --> 00:32:08.000 There are also some websites where if you're on there, they kinda sneakily 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:12.000 put in photos that aren't public domain or creative commons 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.000 and you click on them, then they'll try to get you buy, purchase those. 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:16.000 And I had that happen to me 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:22.000 The ones I showed you today I thought were pretty good about what you saw is what you get. 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:27.000 This site, which is actually kind of cool, this is gratisography. 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:32.000 And it has quirky pictures. 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:37.000 If you click on something, I probably won't find one 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.000 But if you click on something you don't really know 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:43.000 who took this picture and you can't find any information about it 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:47.000 because when you right click on it, it says that is doesn't 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.000 collect the owner information. 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:53.000 What you need to do then is probably 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:56.000 go to the bottom or wherever you see the about 00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:60.000 and look at the license and what their licensing. 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.000 And then this is everything you need to know about these pictures. 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:08.000 So if really, on this particular site, it doesn't matter who took it. 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.000 They're telling you what you can and can't do with the pictures. 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:18.000 But also what they're doing on this site 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:23.000 is they're also advertising for Shutterstock up here, too. 00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:27.000 So if I type in wolf here, it shows nothing. 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:32.000 No pictures. So if I didn't read this 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.000 I might click on one of these. But what this is saying is 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:40.000 you didn't find what you're looking for? Try one of these Shutterstock images which you're going to have to pay for. 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:43.000 Just be a little bit careful. 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:47.000 So if you find a picture of something that's pretty common 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:53.000 like road signs or buildings or things that are really common. 00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:54.000 Do you have to cite them still? 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:57.000 Whatever the standard is in your field 00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:60.000 that's what you need to do. 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.000 In your field, you usually don't put who the 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:08.000 photographer was. You may not have to. But if you're using a creative commons 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:11.000 license material you do have to put that. 00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.000 But you don't have to put it on the picture 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.000 or right underneath it. You can put it at the bottom of your webpage. 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:22.000 So that's all I have for today, except for the handout. 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.000 It has information about creative commons licenses. 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:29.000 Also, it has information about how to attribute creative commons licenses. 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:32.000 And you can just use this for all 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.000 pictures that you're using. This could be the way that you cite them. 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.000 And then there's some cautions about some problems with some sites. 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:43.000 And then here's a list of some of the sites we went to. And then some others, too. 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:45.000 And a little bit of information about them. 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:48.000 Beside Google, both Bing and Yahoo 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:52.000 can filter results by the usage rights. 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.000 And you can filter by public domain. 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:59.000 Like I said I love to talk about copyright, so if you have any questions I'm happy to help you. 00:34:59.000 --> 00:34:64.000 Thank you for coming today. Applause and music 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:08.000 music 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:11.000 music