WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.000 music 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:08.000 So as stated a few minutes ago, 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:10.000 I graduated in June of 2018. 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:13.000 I actually work where I completed my 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:15.000 internship so I completed my 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:17.000 internship I was lucky enough 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:18.000 to be able to have a smooth 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:21.000 transition -- I completed my 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:22.000 internship in June as everybody 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:25.000 knows you'll be doing and then 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:27.000 I took a month off and I got 00:00:27.000 --> 00:00:29.000 hired as a temporary counselor 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:31.000 in July I was a temporary 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:33.000 counselor from July to 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:35.000 September and then I got hired 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:38.000 permanently I guess July 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.000 to October and I got hired 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:42.000 permanently in October. 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:46.000 In my case, the process didn't it 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:49.000 wasn't -- an extensive wait 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:50.000 as Brian was stating earlier 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:51.000 that sometimes it could take 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:54.000 several months to get hired -- 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:55.000 I actually had two other job 00:00:55.000 --> 00:00:57.000 offers with two other offices 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.000 and my manager knew that and 00:00:59.000 --> 00:00:61.000 he wanted to keep me there. 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:02.000 It was, you know, he didn't want 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:04.000 me to accept the others and 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:07.000 so he had the interview for me 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:09.000 he posted the job in September, 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:11.000 had the interview and then made 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:12.000 his decision and I got hired in 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:15.000 October. So in some instances 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:16.000 you know you don't have to wait 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:19.000 that long mmhm so yeah it's a 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:22.000 little bit about my job. I've 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:23.000 been there a little bit over a 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:25.000 year as a permanent counselor now. 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:28.000 I did not pass my CRC exam 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:30.000 and so I have been 00:01:30.000 --> 00:01:33.000 employed with VR and -- that 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:35.000 didn't have any that was 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:37.000 a factor into that -- I am 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:40.000 going to retake it, but I was 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:41.000 still able to get a job. 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:43.000 The question was that she had 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:46.000 heard that you make more if 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:48.000 you do you have a CRC 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:49.000 and she was just asking for 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:51.000 clarification and I said 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:54.000 you do have your CRC. 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:58.000 As of now I host an intern 00:01:58.000 --> 00:01:60.000 but I need to meet with 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:01.000 another counselor in the 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:04.000 office who has his CRC. 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:06.000 And I'd like to just be able to 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.000 host that intern and be able to 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:09.000 sign off the off of the paper 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:13.000 work -- so just for the for 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.000 that primarily is to be able to 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:16.000 host interns because I would 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:18.000 like to continue to do that in 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:23.000 the future and -- also I am an 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:26.000 LPC intern licensed professional 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:29.000 counselor and so I either need 00:02:29.000 --> 00:02:32.000 to have passed the CRC exam or the 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:34.000 other one that -- the NCE 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:38.000 and so I'm going to take the CRC 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:39.000 since now that I'm a permanent 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:42.000 employee of the state will fund that 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:43.000 Alright, my name is 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:44.000 David Crockett like I mentioned 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:46.000 before I'd been at -- Yamhill 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:48.000 County now for two years. 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:52.000 in Grants Pass at a place 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.000 called -- On Track and it was 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:57.000 who've gotten anything any 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:59.000 kind of substance use issues 00:02:59.000 --> 00:02:61.000 gotten some kind of probation 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:02.000 violation they would have to 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:08.000 go through there -- so that did 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.000 help me connect with the job a 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:12.000 Yamhill County because they 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:13.000 were looking for somebody who 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:15.000 could work with that population 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:16.000 of people that had chemical 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:18.000 dependency issues as well as 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.000 mental health issues a lot 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:21.000 of -- borderline personality 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.000 disorders so that was kind of 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:29.000 Brian was mentioning earlier -- 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:32.000 I am a licensed now I'm a 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:34.000 licensed professional intern as 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:36.000 well so -- I'm about a thousand 00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:38.000 hours away from completing that. 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:41.000 I've already passed my exam. 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:45.000 My NCE exam, excuse me, and -- so 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:46.000 now it's just about the hours 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:51.000 for me -- I know I know that if 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:52.000 you're thinking about getting 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.000 into mental health -- really 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:57.000 the two kind of primarily 00:03:57.000 --> 00:03:58.000 treatment modalities that are 00:03:58.000 --> 00:03:64.000 being utilizes seemed -- CBT and DBT. 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.000 So dialectical therapy 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.000 is what's a comprehensive is 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:09.000 really what's being played 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.000 out so somebody's going into 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:12.000 groups they're meeting with a 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:15.000 counselor and they're engaging 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:18.000 weekly so -- if you're looking 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:19.000 to get a mental health I would 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:21.000 kind of go first on that ad 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:22.000 and your theoretical posters 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:23.000 right now I think mine when 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:25.000 I was here was like reality 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:26.000 therapy it's going out the 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:29.000 window, you know, you know 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.000 it is, it's it's like, it's like 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:33.000 there is no one set thing to 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:34.000 do because every client you 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:35.000 have is going to be different 00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:36.000 so you're just going to meet 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:37.000 the client where they're at 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:40.000 what you guys do but asking 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:41.000 the client what they want 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.000 to do. Getting their permission 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:44.000 to speak about something is 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.000 really going to help. 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:49.000 So the question was about DBT, 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:50.000 do you have to be trained? 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:52.000 So, you don't have to be 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.000 trained to do it, but unless you're 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.000 trained you're not gonna, you're not gonna 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:58.000 probably know, I didn't know how to use it I just 00:04:58.000 --> 00:04:60.000 went through a training last week 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.000 last week, through the Portland DBT 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:04.000 Institute which was -- they 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:06.000 sent me and 2 colleagues 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:08.000 and we met with people from all over the country 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.000 that were there for the same training. 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:12.000 So, so read up on Marsha Linehan 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:14.000 she's the founder of the DBT so -- 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:17.000 you'll learn a lot about how 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:18.000 to do groups primarily work 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:21.000 working with people with -- borderline 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:23.000 personality disorders because 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:24.000 that's really what our focus 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:28.000 is on -- but it's it's really 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:29.000 great because it's kind of 00:05:29.000 --> 00:05:31.000 like they have an agenda 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:32.000 they have a script and you 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:35.000 just follow it and it's about 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:37.000 just changing behaviors, right? 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.000 So, it's it's a really good treatment modality. 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.000 How much are those DBT trainings? 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:45.000 I saw the bill, so the bill was eighteen 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:50.000 hundred dollars per person -- 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:53.000 again the county funded that so 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:55.000 yeah, that's kind of what I 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.000 can say about what it costs. 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:59.000 The one I went to is five days 00:05:59.000 --> 00:05:61.000 long -- and they do them various 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:03.000 locations the one we did was at 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:04.000 the Edgefield right there in 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:07.000 Troutdale -- but they do have 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:08.000 this thing if you look it up 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:10.000 it's called DBT in a nutshell. 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:14.000 It's like a 2-day training, valuable -- 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:15.000 I would recommend if you're 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:16.000 interested in that look at 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:18.000 consider that going to that 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:20.000 first but I wouldn't wait 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:21.000 until we're you gonna get 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:22.000 placed because they would likely 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.000 fund that for you, right, rather 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:26.000 than out-of-pocket. 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:29.000 What was my process for looking for a job? 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:32.000 So my process was I did a shot 00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:34.000 gun approach, poof. I sent out 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:36.000 lots of applications I sent in 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:37.000 them in the general area where I wanted 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:40.000 to live -- so I was down in 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:42.000 Grants Pass, I realized I did 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:43.000 not want to stay down there. 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:45.000 So I wanted to move back to 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:46.000 Willamette Valley because I'd 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:48.000 laid roots out here. To be quite 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:49.000 honest I think I'd applied 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:50.000 for jobs that Yamhill 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:52.000 County without exaggeration 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:54.000 probably ten times and probably 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.000 filled out fifteen different 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:60.000 applications -- before I 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:01.000 finally got a call back and 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:03.000 then the way their process was 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:05.000 I went in for an interview to one job, 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:07.000 the supervisor, whose my 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:09.000 my supervisor now, said "well 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:10.000 there's this other position 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.000 what you apply for that" so I 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.000 did and an hour later she called me 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.000 and said can you do an interview 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:17.000 for this and like Brian kind 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.000 of -- stated it was a was a 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:23.000 group interview. So there we 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:24.000 interview for like the team 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:25.000 that you're potentially going 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.000 to go on, so the teammates are 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:29.000 gonna interview and then 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:30.000 you're going to go back for 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.000 another interview and then 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:32.000 people that aren't on that team 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.000 were going to interview you 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.000 and the supervisor kind of take 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:38.000 all that into consideration so 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:39.000 I guess somebody had mentioned 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:42.000 Brandt had been here before so 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:43.000 he's on my team we interviewed 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:45.000 him before he got there and 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:46.000 then after he left we talked 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:47.000 about where we saw him on our 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:49.000 team, what fit he was and 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:51.000 we liked him so he's on my 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:55.000 team now, so yeah he's a good fit. 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:56.000 So it's about team building 00:07:56.000 --> 00:07:57.000 there and that's not you're 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:59.000 not a good fit for a team it's 00:07:59.000 --> 00:07:60.000 nothing you won't get a job 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:01.000 there they'll just find a team 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.000 that you you're better suited for. 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.000 What qualities might have 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:08.000 placed me ahead of somebody? 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:09.000 I don't know that it was any 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:12.000 particular quality -- I think 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:13.000 that Brian -- also talked 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:15.000 about those life experiences 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:17.000 right so I went in there I 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:20.000 talked about life experience 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:23.000 I have so life experience -- 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:24.000 I will I went in there were 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:26.000 being very authentic if I don't 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:27.000 know something I would say 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:31.000 I don't know -- and I so I got 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.000 comfortable being vulnerable 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:34.000 right that's a scary thing 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.000 for all of us to do but when you're 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:37.000 in that setting they learn 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.000 what they want to see you be 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:40.000 able to do that because we're 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:42.000 asking clients to do the same 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:45.000 thing, so we're going to model that for our clients. 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:51.000 The question was qualities, well some of that 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:53.000 pertain to the transferable 00:08:53.000 --> 00:08:55.000 skills and previous experience 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.000 for two and a half years prior 00:08:59.000 --> 00:08:61.000 so I had that job development 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:03.000 experience -- was contracted 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.000 with VR -- I completed my 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:09.000 internship there and you know 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:13.000 so they my team already knew me 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:19.000 what was in my favor pertaining 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:21.000 to getting being able to get a job. 00:09:21.000 --> 00:09:22.000 The interview process 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:25.000 though is slightly different 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:28.000 from -- Dave, Dave was it, stated 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:30.000 to that occasionally during 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:32.000 questions he'd say I don't 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:34.000 know the answer to that with 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.000 VR without providing too much 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:37.000 information I was actually 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.000 part of an interview panel so 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:41.000 I was able to be on both sides 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.000 once I got hired there are 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.000 questions that are asked of you 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:47.000 and it's a point system and so 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:48.000 you either know the answer you 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:50.000 don't if you know the answer 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:51.000 you'll get that point and if 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:54.000 you don't you won't and so 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:55.000 it is important to read the 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:57.000 entire question you'll get a 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:59.000 sheet before the questions are 00:09:59.000 --> 00:09:60.000 asked at the interview and 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:02.000 make sure that you answer every 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:04.000 single portion of that question 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.000 and give examples because if 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.000 you don't you won't get that point. 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:10.000 Our interview process 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:12.000 much different it's primarily 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:15.000 scenarios here ask specific 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:16.000 certain scenario how you handle 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:19.000 the situation and so we take a 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:21.000 and sometimes it is and I don't 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:23.000 know response if you've never 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:28.000 been in it how would you know 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:30.000 can I, okay, so the question 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:31.000 is can I give you an example 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:34.000 of the scenario so so a team 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:37.000 building question right so -- 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:40.000 it's Friday five o'clock -- 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.000 you're ready to go home your 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:43.000 colleague is going through 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:44.000 a crisis because one of her 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:46.000 clients just shouted and had a 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:49.000 screaming match had to be escorted out of the 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:53.000 building what do you do 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:57.000 right so the response is I can 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:58.000 take a few minutes to find out 00:10:58.000 --> 00:10:59.000 my colleagues in okay yes there 00:10:59.000 --> 00:10:61.000 is anything I can do to support 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:03.000 them right rather than not my 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:04.000 problem not here boom, it's Friday 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:07.000 right so it's just like that 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:08.000 kind of that's the scenario 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:10.000 question or a plane crisis what 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:13.000 do you do first response is 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.000 make sure the client safe right 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:17.000 anything has to the clients 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:18.000 because the client safety is 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.000 first and then once the client 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:21.000 safety is first then you create 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.000 a safety plan right so all that 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:25.000 stuff is just a building 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:26.000 but if you don't know if you 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.000 don't know right I don't know 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:29.000 that I didn't know that when 00:11:29.000 --> 00:11:31.000 I interviewed but I've been on 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:34.000 those panels now myself in some 00:11:34.000 --> 00:11:36.000 people know I didn't. 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:39.000 Questions as well as VR the like 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.000 have a theme so like conflict 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:46.000 resolution based off of their 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:49.000 scenarios will be the point so 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:51.000 you could handle that conflict 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:53.000 or you don't know about 00:11:53.000 --> 00:11:54.000 handling conflicts you'll get 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.000 the point for that one or -- 00:11:58.000 --> 00:11:59.000 that's the primary 00:11:59.000 --> 00:11:60.000 one that I could think of as 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:01.000 an example because I had a 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:03.000 question on conflict you had 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:04.000 a conflict with a coworker 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:06.000 or you had a conflict tell me 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:08.000 about what you did to resolve 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:11.000 it -- so there are certain 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:12.000 scenarios with VR 00:12:12.000 --> 00:12:15.000 as well but it's all based 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:17.000 off that point system. 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:18.000 So the question was how long it 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:21.000 took to get a job from first 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:23.000 starting out filling out 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:25.000 applications and I started 00:12:25.000 --> 00:12:27.000 applying for jobs when I was 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:29.000 still in school in my internship 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:30.000 so I started applying for 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.000 jobs in March because I was 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:35.000 so worried and frantic that 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:36.000 I wouldn't get a job because 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:37.000 I wanted one right when I 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:39.000 graduated like I wanted to 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.000 graduate and then walk into a 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:45.000 job that didn't happen -- so 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:47.000 I was applying for jobs down 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:49.000 I mean all sorts of places I 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:51.000 mean I was willing to relocate 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:54.000 I was just wanting a job -- 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:59.000 so it took yeah a few months 00:12:59.000 --> 00:12:63.000 then on yeah I had just been 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:04.000 you know going on we there is 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:06.000 a different site at that point 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:07.000 we hadn't transferred to the 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:09.000 Workday System yet and so I was 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:10.000 going on the state of Oregon 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:13.000 site and constantly looking 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:14.000 for vocational rehabilitation 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:16.000 counselor jobs and there were 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:18.000 none there were none there 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:19.000 are none and then I think 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:21.000 July there are like nine at 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:24.000 once and so that goes back to 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:26.000 what Brian says is that with 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.000 saying is that sometimes they 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:29.000 will show that there aren't any 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:32.000 jobs but then they will 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:34.000 you know coordinate everything and 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:36.000 figure out when to upload them 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:37.000 on a Workday in the all just 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:39.000 come out and so don't lose 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.000 hope, you know, you'll they'll 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.000 there will be time and I know 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:48.000 my office in May which is right 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:49.000 around the time of graduation 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:52.000 and so I know that we'll have an opening so 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:54.000 so I got a job -- 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:57.000 in Grants Pass -- with this 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:59.000 other mental health place but 00:13:59.000 --> 00:13:60.000 I was gonna have to drive their 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:01.000 vehicles and since I had two 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:02.000 moving violations they couldn't 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.000 keep me so three weeks on the 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:06.000 job they fired me so then 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.000 I moved back to McMinnville 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:12.000 applied like mid October and 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:14.000 I had a job started my first 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:16.000 day November twenty fourth so 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:17.000 little over a month with the 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:18.000 interview process and then all 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:21.000 the whatever they had to do 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:24.000 getting the job at least at 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:25.000 our county but I would imagine 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:26.000 it's not gonna be different 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.000 than any other mental health 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:31.000 setting in any other county 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:32.000 the turnover rate for clinicians is 00:14:32.000 --> 00:14:36.000 high they get their LPC you're 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:40.000 gone because the caseloads -- 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.000 taxing the client needs is such 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.000 a high acuity right so many 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:47.000 things they need -- a lot of 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.000 times it's there's there is a 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:50.000 mental health issue but there's 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.000 so many areas that need to be 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:53.000 addressed prior to them even 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:54.000 wanted to focus up 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.000 they don't have a place to live 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:57.000 you know, they're trying to get on 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:58.000 social security disability there's 00:14:58.000 --> 00:14:60.000 all these other things that 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:01.000 when you say well let's talk 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:03.000 about your depression no let's 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.000 get me some place to live right 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:09.000 so -- so that that takes its 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:13.000 toll on you right -- but if you 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:16.000 can get through that everything 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:17.000 else is a piece of cake man 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:19.000 it really well I mean by and 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:20.000 grateful to work where I'm at 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:22.000 I'm learning a lot because I 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:24.000 didn't like my job before I 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:25.000 came to school I was working 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:27.000 I was a heavy road construction 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:29.000 worker I have no experience in 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:30.000 this field whatsoever so I'm 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:32.000 learning as I go so I don't 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:34.000 know if anybody else had that 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:35.000 kind of experience were you 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:36.000 got in this field and know 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.000 nothing about it that was mine 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:39.000 though I had no idea what I 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:41.000 was doing I don't know that 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.000 I know what I'm doing now but 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:44.000 I'm getting a little better at it. 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:45.000 The question was asked 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:47.000 was I fired and the answer 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:48.000 was yes I was fired because 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:49.000 I don't have a clean driving 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:51.000 record I'd had a couple speeding tickets. 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:52.000 So the question is how 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:53.000 did the office where I'm 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.000 currently at so interesting 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:57.000 you ask that because when I 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:59.000 question I had was does my 00:15:59.000 --> 00:15:61.000 driving record matter because 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:02.000 if it did I was going to walk 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:06.000 out and they said no you're 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:07.000 driving your own car and 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:10.000 like all right we're good so 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:11.000 because I still get 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:16.000 speeding tickets 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:17.000 The question was when I 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:19.000 was doing my intern 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:21.000 internship did I get a CADC? 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:22.000 No I did not 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:25.000 because -- I was 00:16:25.000 --> 00:16:27.000 working more on their mental 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:28.000 health portion I wasn't doing 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.000 a lot of groups however I am 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:33.000 a CADC candidate now and I'm 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:35.000 I got to take some class that 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:37.000 they don't offer here and then 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:39.000 I'm done so I'll have that CADC 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:42.000 which they really like for you to have 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:44.000 because we are working with 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.000 people who have co-occurring disorders. 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:47.000 How long did it take 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.000 me to get classes that meet the 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.000 requirements for a CADC out of the way? 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:58.000 asked me she volun-told me 00:16:58.000 --> 00:16:61.000 that I was gonna do CADC 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:02.000 I said okay so I went on the 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:04.000 ABCO website and looked most 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:06.000 of the courses we take here 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:07.000 cover the majority of that 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:08.000 but there's something like infectious 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:11.000 diseases is one that we have 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:13.000 to take and then one other one 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:15.000 psycho pharmacology and it's 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:16.000 not the same one that you do 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:19.000 here it's a different one -- 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:21.000 but the county paid for both 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:24.000 of those so -- county pays 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:26.000 for a lot of classes and if 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:28.000 they mandate you to take them 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:30.000 volun-tell you it doesn't 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:31.000 even come out of your training 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:33.000 budget so let them train me. 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.000 Do I have a CDC two or three 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:37.000 on-site and the answer is yes. 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.000 So my supervisor has she's 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:42.000 an LCSW and a CADC2 we have a 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.000 number of CADC3's on-site 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:50.000 any supervision so all my 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:52.000 supervision is covered 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:54.000 I don't know, like I don't know what 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:55.000 it's like to be at a VR 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:56.000 if you have to go and pay 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.000 for enter your supervision 00:17:58.000 --> 00:17:59.000 somewhere else if you're 00:17:59.000 --> 00:17:60.000 earning your LPC I don't think 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:01.000 you do if you have somebody 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:03.000 on-site who's an LPC 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:05.000 exactly, I unfortunately don't have 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:07.000 anybody on site and so I went 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:09.000 through the list of people who 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:11.000 were eligible LPC supervisors 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.000 and selected one -- so I have 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:17.000 to pay for the supervision but 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:19.000 if somebody is lucky enough to 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:21.000 get a job with the VR 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.000 who does have an LPC 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:25.000 supervisor which some VR 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:27.000 offices have then they'll be 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:29.000 able to provide the supervision 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:31.000 at no cost and I already knew 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:33.000 who I wanted to select 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:35.000 who was on that list so I 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:36.000 just went down and I saw that 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.000 person's name and I contacted 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:41.000 them and I found my supervisor 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:43.000 I did have some people who 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:45.000 were backups just in case that 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:46.000 person a great didn't agree 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:49.000 to work with me -- and I was 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:50.000 going to contact them next 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:52.000 but he agreed to work with me 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:56.000 so I didn't have to have my secondary option. 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:59.000 The follow-up question was how much do I 00:18:59.000 --> 00:18:61.000 have to pay for my supervision 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:03.000 and I actually just became 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.000 an LPC intern so I haven't 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:08.000 actually had my supervision 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:11.000 but I will need to pay ninety 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:14.000 dollars for my first forty 00:19:14.000 --> 00:19:15.000 five hours so I'll basically 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:17.000 be paying nine one hundred 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:19.000 eighty dollars a month, ninety 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:22.000 dollars for one-on-one meetings 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:24.000 which is once a month and then 00:19:24.000 --> 00:19:25.000 ninety dollars for the group 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:28.000 which will also be once a month 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:32.000 hours of my -- accountable 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:34.000 hours I'll have to pay an 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:36.000 additional ninety dollars and 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:41.000 so on it gets costly yes 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:43.000 will that supervisor be available 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:45.000 if I have any questions or like 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.000 face I ethical dilemmas 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.000 I'm assuming so but like I 00:19:49.000 --> 00:19:51.000 said I haven't met with him 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:53.000 yet -- and so I have a plethora 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:55.000 of questions I'm planning 00:19:55.000 --> 00:19:57.000 on asking him you know like 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:60.000 situational questions -- 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:01.000 but I'm assuming that yes he 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:03.000 would be available but I'm 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.000 not entirely sure our first 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:06.000 scheduled meeting is this month 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:10.000 so when you finish your LPC do 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:13.000 you still plan to work with VR 00:20:13.000 --> 00:20:18.000 on and to be honest yes I do 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:26.000 the state benefits are great 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:27.000 I'm not going to beat around 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:30.000 the bush and so I would love 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.000 to still work with VR specially 00:20:32.000 --> 00:20:35.000 for that aspect and potentially 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:36.000 like maybe work Monday through 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:38.000 through Thursday because 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:40.000 that's my schedule now and then 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:41.000 maybe on Fridays you know 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:44.000 how that is like my separate 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:46.000 day were a could council 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:48.000 aside from VR 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:49.000 but I'm the type of person who 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:53.000 always wants to evolve and so I 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.000 might not be a counselor maybe 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:59.000 I want to be a manager some day 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:04.000 as of now yes but that might 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:07.000 change and to be honest 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.000 does VR have any rules pertaining 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:13.000 to working with VR 00:21:13.000 --> 00:21:15.000 and then going out and having 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:18.000 additional work and no I 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:20.000 don't believe so I spoke with 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:21.000 my manager about that and I 00:21:21.000 --> 00:21:23.000 propose I told him that that 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:25.000 was my like kind of short 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:28.000 term slash long term plan and 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:29.000 he didn't tell me that there 00:21:29.000 --> 00:21:32.000 was anything against that 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:37.000 done that and so I know that 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:40.000 he -- practice for one day a 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:43.000 week while he was working as 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:45.000 a counselor and so no there aren't 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.000 what upward mobility 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:49.000 do each of our agencies that 00:21:49.000 --> 00:21:52.000 we work with have -- there 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:53.000 are all sorts of sites with 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:57.000 things so -- moving up usually 00:21:57.000 --> 00:21:59.000 the next step is a branch 00:21:59.000 --> 00:21:62.000 manager and then a regional 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:03.000 manager so manager of the 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:05.000 entire region and then there's 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.000 like the field chief and then 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:15.000 jobs pertaining to VR such 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:17.000 as policy analysts were you 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:19.000 work more closely with policy 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:21.000 which is another interest 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.000 of mine but -- okay so there 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:28.000 are things like that as well 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:31.000 I think of where we're at you 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:32.000 can become a supervisor and 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:35.000 then maybe a manager however I 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:37.000 think a lot of the clinicians 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:39.000 what they do is we you can 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:40.000 start like if you can find an 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:44.000 evidence based kind of -- group 00:22:44.000 --> 00:22:46.000 but you can do you can of all 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:47.000 of your own groups so I've 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:49.000 created a few groups since 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:52.000 been there -- to work with 00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:53.000 veterans to work with people 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:56.000 who have a high recidivism rate 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:60.000 so that kind of my role changes 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:04.000 but my salary doesn't so -- 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:05.000 and again I think because we do 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:07.000 with there have a high turnover 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:10.000 rate people people get their 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.000 license and they go on to place 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:14.000 that will compensate them more 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:16.000 the question is was pertaining 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:17.000 to the training budget that they 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:18.000 offer so the county offers 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.000 us each five hundred dollars 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:21.000 within a training budget a 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.000 year so really what that does 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:25.000 that equates to maybe two 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:27.000 classes that might run a day 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:28.000 however if the county sends 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.000 you so a mandated training it 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:31.000 doesn't matter your training 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:33.000 budget so DBT was kind of 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:35.000 mandated it didn't come out of 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:36.000 my training budget any veterans 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:39.000 in here, no veterans, okay 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:43.000 so as a veteran PESSI 00:23:43.000 --> 00:23:45.000 offers lots a lots of trainings 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:46.000 and they don't charge me at all 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:48.000 I just have to call them in advance 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:50.000 and send me to a training 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:55.000 training's gonna run between 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:57.000 a hundred ninety nine to three 00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:58.000 hundred ninety nine dollars 00:23:58.000 --> 00:23:59.000 depending on how long the 00:23:59.000 --> 00:23:61.000 training is still is -- but 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:03.000 yeah the county gives each of 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.000 us five hundred dollar budget 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.000 it's just for the class if you 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:09.000 have to stay overnight that's out of your pocket 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:13.000 what other jobs can you do to help pay 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.000 back the scholarship the RC 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:18.000 scholarship so in my position 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:20.000 is not qualifying it's not 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:22.000 qualifying so I will end up 00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:25.000 having to pay that back 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:26.000 that's what I can say that now 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:28.000 there that's not to say that at 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:31.000 our agency there aren't positions 00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:32.000 they couldn't pay that back 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:34.000 there are I'm just not in one 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:38.000 of them -- an example is they 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:42.000 have a employment specialists 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:45.000 who work for the county and connect with VR 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:47.000 so the question was the two classes 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.000 I needed to complete my CADC 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:51.000 where did I take those so they 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:53.000 were again so the county the 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:54.000 county offers a lot of wide 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:56.000 range trainings and sometimes 00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:59.000 they will sent everybody and or 00:24:59.000 --> 00:24:60.000 they'll send a certain group 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.000 of people so anybody that was 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:06.000 on the CADC track we would 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:07.000 we could sign up for that they 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:08.000 would send us there so like 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:09.000 so we're McMinnville and they 00:25:09.000 --> 00:25:11.000 had the trainings offered at 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:12.000 at the community center across 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.000 the street for one and then the 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:15.000 other training was over at the 00:25:15.000 --> 00:25:18.000 First Baptist Church it's just 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.000 they're in the community they 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:22.000 offer them there however -- had 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:25.000 I found them online somewhere 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:26.000 I could have done that in the 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:27.000 county would reimbursed me for it 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.000 because they want they want 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:33.000 their clinicians to have as 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:35.000 many kind of certifications as 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:39.000 they can for billing reasons 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.000 right they can bill more for me 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:43.000 they can go more for you if 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:44.000 you have a CADC if you have 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:46.000 your LPC they can bill more 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:47.000 would have been a CADC prior to 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:50.000 applying for jobs help maybe 00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:56.000 know because I didn't have that 00:25:58.000 --> 00:25:59.000 interest in doing that as a matter 00:25:59.000 --> 00:25:60.000 of fact I was adversed to it 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:02.000 I'd done an internship with CADC folks 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.000 I'm like nope not for me and 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.000 here I am doing that now right 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:11.000 so it just changes I mean you 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:12.000 I don't think it would hurt 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:13.000 you already have a but I don't 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:14.000 think it's a criterion unless 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:15.000 you're going to apply for 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.000 some place that's specifically 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:19.000 says hey we'd like you to have that 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:22.000 did I face any obstacles about getting into 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:24.000 this position that I'm in now 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:32.000 and honestly no I did not -- 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:33.000 I'm trying to think I had it's 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.000 been over a year since I mean 00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:36.000 I know it doesn't seem like 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:38.000 a long time but you know when 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:40.000 you have a full caseload it 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:41.000 and all those things factor in 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:43.000 so explain what I mean by 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:47.000 full caseload -- so as a VR 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:50.000 counselor I actually have a 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:54.000 small caseload because a lot of 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:55.000 working with the VR 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.000 case management my caseload 00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:60.000 right now sixty five I am able 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.000 to keep that pretty balanced 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:04.000 on by making sure that I follow 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.000 up with clients and I send 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.000 had what we called 10-day 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:09.000 letters if they don't respond 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:10.000 or if if they're not active 00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:12.000 participants and then filter 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.000 through you know my caseload 00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:16.000 some councillors have over a 00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:20.000 hundred -- there was one of 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:21.000 my coworkers had a hundred and 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:23.000 twenty because she was working 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:25.000 predominantly with the IDD or 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:29.000 intellectually developmentally disability clients 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.000 and -- when we recently hired a 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:33.000 new counselor she transferred 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:35.000 twenty of her caseload over to 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:37.000 that new counselor and so it 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:41.000 does vary -- a nice manageable 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:43.000 caseload is about sixty five 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.000 to seventy but then you'll see 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:47.000 where they'll just skyrocket and 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:49.000 get out of control to exceeding 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.000 a hundred and so I hope I've 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:53.000 only been there a year I hope 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:54.000 it doesn't get to that point 00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:56.000 of having a hundred but I 00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.000 also have a diverse caseload 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.000 disability population -- so 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:04.000 that could include people who 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:06.000 have traumatic brain injury 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:08.000 any physical disabilities 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:10.000 I also have a YTP youth in 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:12.000 transition program caseload 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:14.000 I partner with Estacada High School and 00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:16.000 I also work with a mental 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:18.000 illness population so 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:22.000 input supported employment so 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:25.000 I do and I also work with IDD 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:27.000 clients so my case it is very 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:31.000 diverse having which is good 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.000 I mean I have friends that I went to 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:34.000 school with here that have 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:35.000 caseloads similar to what she's saying 00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:39.000 up in the hundreds -- last I 00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:41.000 checked mine was seventy six 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.000 from but I'm I keep mine 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:46.000 low that's low because I'm 00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:47.000 I'm a closer if you're not 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.000 engaging you're getting closed 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.000 yeah I'm closing people so I 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.000 do twice a week I do Mondays 00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.000 from my group is from eleven to 00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.000 a twelve thirty and then I do 00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:58.000 Tuesdays from three fifteen to 00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:61.000 four forty five -- I don't let 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:02.000 any more than fifteen clients 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:05.000 into any one group if they miss 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.000 more than two groups they're out 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.000 of the group if they're late 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:10.000 they can't come so that counts 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.000 as a miss -- but we do that 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.000 day one we have a group kind 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.000 of rate you know norms group 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.000 agreements and we agree as a 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:21.000 group like there's no eating in 00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:22.000 my group there's no texting in my 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.000 group you know there's no more 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:26.000 than one person in the bathroom 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.000 at a time right so there's and 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:29.000 we agreed to this is a group 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:31.000 I don't go in there with this 00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:33.000 kind of militant authoritative 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:34.000 role we agree as a group 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:35.000 because all those things are 00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:37.000 distracting behaviors right 00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:38.000 there there team interfering 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.000 behaviors and I tell those guys 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.000 were all a team again I created 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.000 two groups because I saw the 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.000 need based on my caseload 00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:49.000 supervisor she ran into the 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:51.000 manager and they ran it through 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.000 the director and then I had 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.000 to show them what my criterion 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.000 was going to be and what I was 00:29:57.000 --> 00:29:58.000 gonna use and I was going to 00:29:58.000 --> 00:29:59.000 use DBT that's why they 00:29:59.000 --> 00:29:62.000 sent me to this training so I could do that 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:05.000 so the question was what we do to manage our 00:30:05.000 --> 00:30:07.000 own self- care and keep track 00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:09.000 of that -- I know that that 00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:11.000 is very emphasized during the 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:12.000 graduate programs which is 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.000 a great and necessary thing 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.000 and that was also extremely 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.000 hard for me during school 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:24.000 but I've gotten better -- 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:27.000 I really have I promise 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.000 I promise -- because I was 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:32.000 working full-time while in 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:33.000 school full-time and planning 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:34.000 my wedding and state away 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:38.000 and so it wasn't easy but now 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.000 when I need you know to go on 00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:46.000 vacations -- I am planning on 00:30:46.000 --> 00:30:48.000 going to Colorado in December 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.000 and so I have to remind myself 00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.000 that I need to take care of 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.000 myself and take time off of 00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:58.000 work once in a while in order 00:30:58.000 --> 00:30:60.000 to effectively do my job 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:02.000 sometimes the consequences 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.000 I'm not going to lie suck because 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.000 I come back to work to 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.000 two hundred emails and I wonder 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:10.000 oh my gosh was this even worth 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.000 it but it really really is 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:19.000 take time off -- I do things 00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:20.000 like focus on myself go on 00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.000 walks you know on my weekends 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.000 after you at least with many 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.000 offices with VR after you pass 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:32.000 your six month probationary 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.000 period you could go to a four 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:37.000 ten schedule so I work Monday 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:38.000 through Thursday and I'm 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:40.000 telling you having that extra 00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:44.000 day a week is great like that 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:45.000 works wonders because I have 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.000 an extra you know this weekend 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:49.000 I have a four day weekend 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:50.000 since Monday is a holiday on 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:53.000 the eleventh and so -- that 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.000 something that I recommend if 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:56.000 you do work with the VR 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:57.000 is go to the four ten's that's 00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:61.000 part of my self-care 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:02.000 so still answering the same question on 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:07.000 what we do for self-care -- 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:09.000 I make a commitment to myself 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.000 this is what I'm gonna do so 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:12.000 for instance this past year I 00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.000 bought them this Discovery Park 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.000 Trail thing so I hang it it's like 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:18.000 thirty bucks I hang it in my car 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:19.000 and I can go to any state park 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.000 in Washington right every other 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.000 week I go on a hike somewhere 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:25.000 that hadn't been I don't care 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.000 about the weather because 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:28.000 weather's an excuse in Oregon 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:32.000 right I just prepare for -- 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.000 I got a puppy right a yellow 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:40.000 lab and a - who has kids right 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:41.000 puppies are just like babies 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:45.000 oh my god cry cry cry I am like 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:48.000 I hate you come here that's 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:49.000 my borderline personality 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:53.000 disorders I hate you come here 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:54.000 yeah I just make a commit I 00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.000 I make a commitment to me and 00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:56.000 I'm not telling you guys what 00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:57.000 to do but I make a commitment 00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:58.000 to myself and that's what I do 00:32:58.000 --> 00:32:60.000 right because I'm on I'm gonna 00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:02.000 ask clients that make change 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.000 them again it's about modeling 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.000 for me right I don't ask my 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:07.000 clients to do anything that 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.000 I'm not willing to do nothing 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:11.000 if I say go to a twelve step 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:12.000 meeting I'll go with you if I 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.000 have to and I will 00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.000 one thing I'd like to emphasize going back 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:19.000 to self-care is despite how difficult 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.000 it is really leaving your work 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.000 at work whatl I've gotten into 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:26.000 the habit of doing is closing 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:27.000 my office door when I leave the 00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:30.000 office and checking my schedule 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.000 prior to going in the next day 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:33.000 so I know what's going on so 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.000 I don't have to go home and 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.000 stress about it and you know 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:38.000 think -- I didn't check my 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.000 schedule what do I have going 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.000 on this week so leave your 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.000 work at work so that when you 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:45.000 get home you could focus on 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.000 going on your hikes or going 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:48.000 to the gym or spending time 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.000 with your spouse or your kids 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.000 because when you start you 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.000 know meshing the two 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.000 it can get pretty stressful 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.000 tell me about how this program prepared you 00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:60.000 for your current position in 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:03.000 a nutshell -- it prepared me 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:06.000 in a variety of ways however 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:07.000 I would like to say that the 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.000 internship prepared me the most 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:11.000 because that gave me the hands 00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.000 on experience that I needed for 00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:17.000 the job -- self-care actually 00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:19.000 prepared me because that is 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.000 something that I was very bad 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:26.000 at doing I really really was 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:30.000 I never even thought about 00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:31.000 taking a step back and thinking 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.000 oh should I I've never even 00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:34.000 thought about doing something 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:38.000 like for myself -- so it prepared me 00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:43.000 in that aspect -- the -- 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:47.000 like the transference counter transference 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:49.000 I've actually experienced a lot of 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.000 that in my job surprisingly and 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:54.000 so you know learning about that 00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:56.000 and what to do and what not to 00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.000 do in those situations was very 00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:63.000 helpful for me -- but I would 00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:06.000 say primarily the internship 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.000 so again the question is what 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:09.000 did this program do to prepare me 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:13.000 for the current job I'm in -- 00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.000 so accountability like show up 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:17.000 to class turn your assignments 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.000 turn your assignments in on time -- 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:21.000 chart notes case notes well I forget 00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.000 what the call them here when 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:25.000 you're with a client and and 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.000 how to well it exposed me to 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:32.000 the idea of creating goals like 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:34.000 a treatment objective which 00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:35.000 again from here to where I'm 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:38.000 at a slightly different right 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.000 but it was a foundation so that 00:35:40.000 --> 00:35:44.000 was important -- because the 00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.000 role that I'm in it's like 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:48.000 new person comes in you know what's 00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.000 the prioritizing why are we 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:53.000 here then the client's words 00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.000 what's your goal then my words 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:58.000 what's the objective and how 00:35:58.000 --> 00:35:59.000 we gonna measure right so we 00:35:59.000 --> 00:35:60.000 learn how what a call here the 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.000 golden thread right how to make 00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.000 that treatment plan right and 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:07.000 this program kind of helped me 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.000 it gave me that the foundation 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.000 of what that's gonna look like 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:12.000 I think every agency is gonna 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:13.000 have a varying degree what 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:14.000 that's gonna look like but it's 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.000 a it's a foundation and quite 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.000 frankly I mean I'm looking 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:21.000 at the room here I see a lot 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.000 of differences in ages and 00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.000 probably backgrounds and when 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:27.000 we're at work we're dealing 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.000 with a lot of different ages 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.000 and backgrounds and upbringings 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.000 and whatnot so just getting 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.000 kind of accustomed to that the 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.000 the question was how did the NCE 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.000 tests go, okay you're not gonna like this 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:43.000 I was done with that test in about twenty minutes 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.000 I rifled through it 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.000 mean I got headaches from 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:52.000 studying so much I would get 00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:53.000 mad and then have to put it 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.000 down walk away but yeah about twenty minutes 00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.000 So question was what did that study process 00:36:59.000 --> 00:36:61.000 look like so the way I study 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:04.000 right I'm a slow learner so 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.000 I got to read the book two 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.000 or three times right then I 00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.000 gotta go read the book and make 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.000 little of three by five cards 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.000 right then I got to go through 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.000 read the book highlight things 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.000 correspond is that what'd on my 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.000 three by five card then what I 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.000 gotta do is I got to drive down 00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:26.000 the road and read three by five 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:27.000 cards while I'm going right 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.000 there with me all the time for 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.000 about four months all the time 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:33.000 anything I could do to absorb 00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.000 that in my head and I would 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.000 times where I would read my 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.000 read my cards recording and 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.000 then play them so I can just 00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:46.000 hear my voice yeah -- re mark it 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:48.000 record my own voice reading 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:50.000 might might little cards and 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.000 then play them in the car I 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:53.000 wouldn't read cards that would 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.000 be terrible right read one 00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:57.000 driving texting while driving 00:37:57.000 --> 00:37:60.000 is fine but not not not reading 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.000 did I take the CRC 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:04.000 and yes I did take that and 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:05.000 I failed it too and I realized 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.000 that I wasn't gonna going to 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:09.000 into VR so I wasn't gonna take 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:12.000 it again that's kind of where 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:16.000 I was at yeah I'm just being honest 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:17.000 but don't let the fact 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:19.000 that we didn't pass it 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:22.000 the first time not give you hope 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:23.000 that's what I struggled with 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.000 it was devastating to me when 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:26.000 I didn't pass and I didn't want 00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:28.000 to admit it to anybody but here 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:29.000 I am admitting it to a group 00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:32.000 full of essentially strangers 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.000 learning everything and so 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.000 you know I know that 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:41.000 it's like this huge thing 00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.000 that your talking about the CRC 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:44.000 the CRC are we going to take this exam 00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.000 but if you don't pass it's okay 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:50.000 so in regards to the best advice we can give you 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:51.000 I guess the better question is 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.000 what are you looking for right 00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.000 what do you want in a job I mean 00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:56.000 is that with questions about 00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.000 like what do I want a job so I 00:38:58.000 --> 00:38:59.000 know that right now it's like 00:38:59.000 --> 00:38:60.000 getting a job that's the most 00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.000 important thing but really with 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:05.000 the credentials that you're 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:06.000 gonna have just for graduation 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.000 your your high commodity right 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.000 so it's finding the the place 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:10.000 that you're going to fit in 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.000 with well right don't just 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.000 take the first job offer to you 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:16.000 forget it feels that way 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:17.000 right when you're in the moment 00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:19.000 feeling something it's like -- 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:23.000 but really just go to a place 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.000 in like ask them if they can 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:26.000 take you like a what is it you do 00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:27.000 here when you went and shadowed 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:31.000 somewhere right see if you can 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:33.000 do that because you might find 00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:34.000 that what nope not place I 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.000 want to be right find out the 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.000 supply but if it's a good fit 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:38.000 for you because that's where 00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.000 for at least three or four 00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:42.000 years right you get there you 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:43.000 realize after six months this 00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:46.000 is not the place I want to be 00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:48.000 so what happens now is you've 00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:49.000 been there six months in your 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:50.000 plan for another job there 00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:51.000 wondering why are you leaving 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:54.000 after six months you know what I'm saying 00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:55.000 it doesn't look good when we jump 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.000 jobs like that so make sure 00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:59.000 the job is a good fit for you 00:39:59.000 --> 00:39:61.000 because cuz you you have 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:02.000 the skills that they're wanting 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:04.000 right you show the dedication 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:05.000 to go through this program to 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.000 do this internship but you're 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.000 going to do whatever it is 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:10.000 don't don't stress and it's 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.000 easy for me to say now right 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:13.000 it's easy to say now don't 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:16.000 stress but don't stress it 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:17.000 just be mindful right saying 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.000 that kind of wise mind where 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:21.000 emotion run things and you're 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:23.000 not letting your irrational mind 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:24.000 you're just kinda meeting in the 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:26.000 middle right to say it's okay 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.000 to feel scared I know I'll 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.000 get through this and that's 00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.000 the advice I'd like to give 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.000 is related to stress because 00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.000 I tend to be very very hard 00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:39.000 on myself but give yourselves 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.000 a break like really you just 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.000 work so hard to get where you 00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.000 are so if you don't get a job 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:48.000 right away that's okay because 00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:49.000 as they were saying you want 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:50.000 to make sure that you get in 00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:51.000 the right environment and it's 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:54.000 a right fit and so just give 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.000 yourself a break -- don't be 00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.000 so hard on yourselves if there 00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:60.000 are people here who are 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:03.000 I know I was you know I'm just 00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:04.000 thinking about my personal 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:06.000 experiences and personality 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:13.000 let go a little bit -- 00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:21.000 if that makes sense no problem 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:23.000 show of hands, who remembers your first term 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:26.000 term in this program who wanted to leave 00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:30.000 after that first term okay hands are still up 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:32.000 it was scary right but you got to 00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:34.000 that and you're all still here 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:36.000 and you're almost done it will 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:37.000 really for I mean it's already 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:40.000 flown by I imagine and so you 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:42.000 know June will be here before 00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:45.000 you know it and and could I 00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:48.000 offer one it's just the so it's 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:49.000 it's not gonna work related 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.000 but it really changed the way 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.000 I think about steps so look at 00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:57.000 the author Viktor Frankl and 00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:61.000 read the book Man's Search For Meaning 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.000 whoo, awesome book right 00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:05.000 I know you don't have a lot 00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.000 of free time to read but if you do 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.000 that book will kind of give you some perspective 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:12.000 about accepting where you're at 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.000 in that moment right and it will all be okay 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.000 so the question is related to past 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:18.000 work experience so what made me 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:21.000 change so at the thirty 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.000 eight years old it was breaking 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:28.000 my back -- yeah I was too young 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:31.000 right to be that broken -- 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:35.000 I don't know -- I think it's 00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.000 getting into this was kind of 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:39.000 an accident like when I came 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.000 here was to become a teacher 00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:42.000 and then I got around second 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:44.000 graders in like nope that's 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.000 not gonna work for me that's 00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:48.000 not gonna work so and then I 00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.000 heard about this program and 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:51.000 and I think they just wanted an 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.000 old white guy so I don't know they 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:56.000 just took me yeah we had a really 00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.000 I was not the oldest person in my cohort 00:42:59.000 --> 00:42:60.000 we had a sixty four year old lady 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:02.000 who went who was with us and then 00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:06.000 we had a young lady who was 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:09.000 twenty one so she blew 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.000 through her undergrad -- I 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.000 would like to say that I'm a 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.000 good luck charm because I took 00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:17.000 a picture with the same three 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:19.000 girls all and they all got 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:20.000 married in the order in which 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.000 they were standing next to me 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:24.000 so you want to get 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:25.000 married stand and take 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:26.000 a picture of me you will 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:34.000 get stay away right away 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:35.000 no hand of god I got a picture 00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.000 with the three girls in in the 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.000 over there next to me they got 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:40.000 married in that order and I've 00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:42.000 been all their weddings they know 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:44.000 I'm good luck -- you guys are 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:45.000 getting ready to start your 00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.000 internship what can you do to 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:51.000 get the best out of it 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:53.000 I hate it, it all depends right 00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:55.000 so depends on where you're 00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.000 doing your internship to get 00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:59.000 the most out of it ask for a 00:43:59.000 --> 00:43:61.000 mentor right somebody can kind 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:02.000 of walk you through because 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.000 you're gonna have a supervisor 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:05.000 but they can't do that stuff so 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.000 get like a mentor that can kind 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.000 of go with you hand in hand 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.000 that'll be really helpful like 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:13.000 Brandt I'm his mentor at work 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:14.000 right not that he needs my help 00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:16.000 but sometimes there's questions 00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:17.000 so find yourself someone that 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.000 you can connect with right away 00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:20.000 and ask them to do this in the 00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.000 help you walk you through -- 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:25.000 and be open be open to being 00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:28.000 uncomfortable like I was going 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:29.000 to say that but out of the 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.000 yeah get out of your comfort zone 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:32.000 be open to being uncomfortable like I was so 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:37.000 focused on not doing one thing 00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:38.000 because it was gonna be 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.000 uncomfortable but it's a lot 00:44:41.000 --> 00:44:44.000 yes my help me grow for a 00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.000 let me grow up I do that so 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:48.000 always stay connected ask 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.000 ask each other questions seriously 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.000 ask each other questions 00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.000 like how is this going what 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:54.000 are you doing right because 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:55.000 when you guys might have 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.000 some other experience that 00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:62.000 right -- I mean it's been two 00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:05.000 years I'm still I still call 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:06.000 guys that I was in class with 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:07.000 and ask hey man how do you 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:10.000 do this what you doing that 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.000 ask questions don't be afraid