WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.000 captioning in progress 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.000 music 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:08.000 music 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Ann Wichmann: I really appreciate this opportunity. I told Leanne a little bit earlier, I said, 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:13.000 Ann Wichmann: I really appreciate this opportunity. I told Leanne a little bit earlier, I said, 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:26.000 where I've been and what I've done and then towards the end of the talk, I wanna basically ask for your advise. 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:26.000 where I've been and what I've done and then towards the end of the talk, I wanna basically ask for your advise. 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:28.000 So we'll stick around for that part. 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:28.000 So we'll stick around for that part. 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:34.000 I was born in Pittsburg, Pensilvania which people just think of as a steel mill thing. 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:34.000 I was born in Pittsburg, Pensilvania which people just think of as a steel mill thing. 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:43.000 It is one of the most fabulously, elegantly, wildlife nooks and crannies, Indian caves, rivers, trees to swing from, 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:43.000 It is one of the most fabulously, elegantly, wildlife nooks and crannies, Indian caves, rivers, trees to swing from, 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:52.000 kind of place to grow up. And I spent most of my life growing up, it was before the panic about letting your children go and do anything. 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:52.000 kind of place to grow up. And I spent most of my life growing up, it was before the panic about letting your children go and do anything. 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:61.000 So, I'd get on a street car, do down and run around in Frick Park and go to my art lessons at Carnegie Museum 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:61.000 So, I'd get on a street car, do down and run around in Frick Park and go to my art lessons at Carnegie Museum 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:07.000 and run around all over the museum all by myself, memorizing all the scientific names 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:07.000 and run around all over the museum all by myself, memorizing all the scientific names 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:13.000 of everything in there and then come home with a stack of 10 to 15 dog and horse books. 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:13.000 of everything in there and then come home with a stack of 10 to 15 dog and horse books. 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:18.000 So that was kind of the way I grew up and I was always just dashing around and 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:18.000 So that was kind of the way I grew up and I was always just dashing around and 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:26.000 pretending that I was the wild horse that could not be captured so, anyhow, it's just a really neat place to grow up. 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:26.000 pretending that I was the wild horse that could not be captured so, anyhow, it's just a really neat place to grow up. 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:34.000 It was a place, too, that was just full of sensory input so I learned very, very early to kind of sneak around in the woods. 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:34.000 It was a place, too, that was just full of sensory input so I learned very, very early to kind of sneak around in the woods. 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:42.000 I remember one time up in Fox Chapel, anybody know Pittsburg pretty well? Really neat wildlife preserve up there 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:42.000 I remember one time up in Fox Chapel, anybody know Pittsburg pretty well? Really neat wildlife preserve up there 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:49.000 and I was sitting at a picnic table, I'm talking 4 or 5 years old, and I'm looking up a slope of flowers in front of me 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:49.000 and I was sitting at a picnic table, I'm talking 4 or 5 years old, and I'm looking up a slope of flowers in front of me 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:57.000 and all of a sudden, a woman gallops by on a, probably a big Baither thoroughbred, I remember that 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:57.000 and all of a sudden, a woman gallops by on a, probably a big Baither thoroughbred, I remember that 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:63.000 at least it looked like it, with two dogs galloping behind her and I just looked up and went, 00:01:57.000 --> 00:01:63.000 at least it looked like it, with two dogs galloping behind her and I just looked up and went, 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:14.000 it was the, "Heinz Estate" or the "Melons Estate." I never got the money part of it, but I definitely got the dogs and the horses 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:14.000 it was the, "Heinz Estate" or the "Melons Estate." I never got the money part of it, but I definitely got the dogs and the horses 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:18.000 so I was really pleased to be able to accomplish that. 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:18.000 so I was really pleased to be able to accomplish that. 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:25.000 I love Pennsylvania, all the old barns. When I've been in Europe it's always the stables this way and the castle that way. 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:25.000 I love Pennsylvania, all the old barns. When I've been in Europe it's always the stables this way and the castle that way. 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:34.000 I always go to the stable and a friend of mine in Germany, she just said, "You've got to have had more incarnations as a horse 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:34.000 I always go to the stable and a friend of mine in Germany, she just said, "You've got to have had more incarnations as a horse 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:35.000 than as a person." 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:35.000 than as a person." 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:44.000 so I was always more interested in what the horses were doing out there. But I love old houses, old barns, and horses. 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:44.000 so I was always more interested in what the horses were doing out there. But I love old houses, old barns, and horses. 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:49.000 I just am so attracted, since I was tiny, to horses. 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:49.000 I just am so attracted, since I was tiny, to horses. 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:53.000 You know to climb over the fence and be in the field with them sort of thing. 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:53.000 You know to climb over the fence and be in the field with them sort of thing. 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:59.000 And got to be quite a good rider. This is not me, but I did get to this level of riding. 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:59.000 And got to be quite a good rider. This is not me, but I did get to this level of riding. 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:06.000 I was really lucky when I went, I was premed, I wanted to be premed, and so I basically looked at premed programs 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:06.000 I was really lucky when I went, I was premed, I wanted to be premed, and so I basically looked at premed programs 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:11.000 that had horse programs. That was actually more important to me at that moment, 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:11.000 that had horse programs. That was actually more important to me at that moment, 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:15.000 but I was lucky Ohio Wesleyan University, which is where I graduated from, 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:15.000 but I was lucky Ohio Wesleyan University, which is where I graduated from, 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:23.000 did have a riding program so I was able to take riding two semesters and then the stable, 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:23.000 did have a riding program so I was able to take riding two semesters and then the stable, 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:30.000 it was a big 100 jumpers stable actually hired me so I got to work the entire time I was a student, 00:03:23.000 --> 00:03:30.000 it was a big 100 jumpers stable actually hired me so I got to work the entire time I was a student, 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:38.000 teaching and training horses so it was really perfect. It was absolutely perfect for me. It was very hard to leave that moment in time. 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:38.000 teaching and training horses so it was really perfect. It was absolutely perfect for me. It was very hard to leave that moment in time. 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:46.000 I have 2 brothers, 'til I had an older brother who died. Got addicted to drugs in the Navy and it just totally tore his body apart. 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:46.000 I have 2 brothers, 'til I had an older brother who died. Got addicted to drugs in the Navy and it just totally tore his body apart. 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:50.000 But these two brothers I still deeply love and get to see every once in a while. 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:50.000 But these two brothers I still deeply love and get to see every once in a while. 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:55.000 They live back in Pittsburg. I was the wild black sheep that migrated. 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:55.000 They live back in Pittsburg. I was the wild black sheep that migrated. 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:58.000 So really fun. 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:58.000 So really fun. 00:03:58.000 --> 00:03:64.000 April Fool's Day, 1975, I became the first female ranger in Colorado. 00:03:58.000 --> 00:03:64.000 April Fool's Day, 1975, I became the first female ranger in Colorado. 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:08.000 Yeah and I beat somebody else, 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:08.000 Yeah and I beat somebody else, 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:13.000 Carolina I can't think of her last name, who was a state park ranger, but I beat her by a couple months. 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:13.000 Carolina I can't think of her last name, who was a state park ranger, but I beat her by a couple months. 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:18.000 So we were kind of in there together, but has anybody been to Boulder? 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:18.000 So we were kind of in there together, but has anybody been to Boulder? 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:24.000 It's a remarkable place and this is right behind the city, this scene. 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:24.000 It's a remarkable place and this is right behind the city, this scene. 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:35.000 So you're just in this magic land of incredible resources with about a billion people that wanna use them. 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:35.000 So you're just in this magic land of incredible resources with about a billion people that wanna use them. 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:44.000 And so it was a really, on my first couple of days, couple of weekends working, because you always work weekends when you're new 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:44.000 And so it was a really, on my first couple of days, couple of weekends working, because you always work weekends when you're new 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:51.000 and I remember I would end up at my supervisor's door in tears because 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:51.000 and I remember I would end up at my supervisor's door in tears because 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:56.000 everybody's doing something wrong and everybody mean to me and 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:56.000 everybody's doing something wrong and everybody mean to me and 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:64.000 it was a very, very hard start. I wasn't born with the desire to wear a uniform and tell people what to do. 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:64.000 it was a very, very hard start. I wasn't born with the desire to wear a uniform and tell people what to do. 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:08.000 But I got very good at it. I really did so 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:08.000 But I got very good at it. I really did so 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:14.000 and frankly all of the police officers I worked with, they were always, 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:14.000 and frankly all of the police officers I worked with, they were always, 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:18.000 you were so lucky because you get to meet so many good people 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:18.000 you were so lucky because you get to meet so many good people 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:23.000 as well as doing the law enforcement which they were just always stuck with the not so good people. 00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:23.000 as well as doing the law enforcement which they were just always stuck with the not so good people. 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:28.000 So it was a nicely balanced thing, but anyhow I loved that job. 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:28.000 So it was a nicely balanced thing, but anyhow I loved that job. 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:35.000 We had a wonderful set up, we did fireside talks. I was hired primarily, I had gotten, my degree was in zoology and botany. 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:35.000 We had a wonderful set up, we did fireside talks. I was hired primarily, I had gotten, my degree was in zoology and botany. 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:44.000 And then I got a teaching certificate, a head start on master's work, and so they hired me primarily as an interpreter. 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:44.000 And then I got a teaching certificate, a head start on master's work, and so they hired me primarily as an interpreter. 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:50.000 In my hiring interview, they said, "by the way do you mind wearing a gun?" And I'm like, 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:50.000 In my hiring interview, they said, "by the way do you mind wearing a gun?" And I'm like, 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:63.000 And I went out to my first shoot with the police department and I love this range master and he goes like, 00:05:56.000 --> 00:05:63.000 And I went out to my first shoot with the police department and I love this range master and he goes like, 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:25.000 I did pretty well, but there were only 4 of us and so we did interpreting, we did natural resource management, 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:25.000 I did pretty well, but there were only 4 of us and so we did interpreting, we did natural resource management, 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:31.000 we did firefighting, we did law enforcement, maintenance, we did absolutely everything that happened in the park. 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:31.000 we did firefighting, we did law enforcement, maintenance, we did absolutely everything that happened in the park. 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:36.000 So it was a really glorious, different experience than the way that the 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:36.000 So it was a really glorious, different experience than the way that the 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:42.000 National Park Service says, "you're an interpretive ranger or you're a law enforcement ranger" and I love 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:42.000 National Park Service says, "you're an interpretive ranger or you're a law enforcement ranger" and I love 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:50.000 the blend of that, I love the knowledge. In one of the, I used to do a lot of speaking at 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:50.000 the blend of that, I love the knowledge. In one of the, I used to do a lot of speaking at 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:54.000 natural resource conferences and park conferences and stuff and I'll never forget 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:54.000 natural resource conferences and park conferences and stuff and I'll never forget 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:60.000 somebody from Canada was speaking at one of the ones and they 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:60.000 somebody from Canada was speaking at one of the ones and they 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:07.000 said, "we always hire people with a biology degree," because you can teach them the interpretive techniques, 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:07.000 said, "we always hire people with a biology degree," because you can teach them the interpretive techniques, 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:13.000 you can teach them the law enforcement, you can teach them the field, some of the field stuff, but you cannot in 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:13.000 you can teach them the law enforcement, you can teach them the field, some of the field stuff, but you cannot in 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:21.000 a quick, expeditious way teach them biology. So I was maybe one of the first examples 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:21.000 a quick, expeditious way teach them biology. So I was maybe one of the first examples 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:25.000 of that, of being hired because I had the biology degree and the teaching 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:25.000 of that, of being hired because I had the biology degree and the teaching 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:32.000 as well so it was really a wonderful match for me and for them. So 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:32.000 as well so it was really a wonderful match for me and for them. So 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:39.000 I hadn't, I'd lived in Colorado maybe three or four years by the time I was hired 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:39.000 I hadn't, I'd lived in Colorado maybe three or four years by the time I was hired 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:43.000 and so it was really fun to get out there and learn so much about 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:43.000 and so it was really fun to get out there and learn so much about 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:47.000 the biology of that place which is a fascinating place. 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:47.000 the biology of that place which is a fascinating place. 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:52.000 It's right on the juxtaposition of the planes and the mountains 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:52.000 It's right on the juxtaposition of the planes and the mountains 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:61.000 so the foothills and everything up above it was available too so I would lead hikes up at 10,000 12,000 ft 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:61.000 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:61.000 so the foothills and everything up above it was available too so I would lead hikes up at 10,000 12,000 ft 00:07:52.000 --> 00:07:61.000 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:09.000 and I'd take the senior center up there and these people would just, like me now, doddle out of the bus and I'd be like, 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:09.000 and I'd take the senior center up there and these people would just, like me now, doddle out of the bus and I'd be like, 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:10.000 laughs 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:10.000 laughs 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:19.000 And I went and we were at high altitude, looking at the wildflowers and I actually went to the director of the senior center and 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:19.000 And I went and we were at high altitude, looking at the wildflowers and I actually went to the director of the senior center and 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:23.000 I said, "Robin, I'm so afraid someone is gonna have a heart attack on one of my hikes." 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:23.000 I said, "Robin, I'm so afraid someone is gonna have a heart attack on one of my hikes." 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:27.000 And she goes, "don't worry about it, most of them are hoping they'll have a heart attack up there." 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:27.000 And she goes, "don't worry about it, most of them are hoping they'll have a heart attack up there." 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:28.000 laughs 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:28.000 laughs 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:37.000 So it was very, very, it was so fun to talk to people and all the plants and, again, I had the wonderful range 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:37.000 So it was very, very, it was so fun to talk to people and all the plants and, again, I had the wonderful range 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:46.000 from the plains to the high, high alpine to learn the botany of a fascinating area. Everybody know's what this is, right? 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:46.000 from the plains to the high, high alpine to learn the botany of a fascinating area. Everybody know's what this is, right? 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:51.000 The one that's spelled both ways the same, "kinnikinnick." 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:51.000 The one that's spelled both ways the same, "kinnikinnick." 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:56.000 I've always been a very good observer. It's frightening to drive with me because I'm always like, 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:56.000 I've always been a very good observer. It's frightening to drive with me because I'm always like, 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:08.000 while I'm driving. I actually have a pretty good record, but I also learned being a park ranger 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:08.000 while I'm driving. I actually have a pretty good record, but I also learned being a park ranger 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:15.000 how many people are not respectful of wildlife or frankly anything else. So 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:15.000 how many people are not respectful of wildlife or frankly anything else. So 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:24.000 I'm driving down the road and I see this glorious buck and all I'm thinking is like, "Don't stand there!" 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:24.000 I'm driving down the road and I see this glorious buck and all I'm thinking is like, "Don't stand there!" 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:32.000 So I think I stopped the truck after I got that and shoot em basically because it was a high risk area to stand in 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:32.000 So I think I stopped the truck after I got that and shoot em basically because it was a high risk area to stand in 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:37.000 for that. So I experienced a great deal of 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:37.000 for that. So I experienced a great deal of 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:45.000 bad situations, heartbreaking situations as I tried to protect the park. 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:45.000 bad situations, heartbreaking situations as I tried to protect the park. 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:53.000 So it was a real blend of the joy of knowledge and meeting wonderful people and a realization that everybody wasn't 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:53.000 So it was a real blend of the joy of knowledge and meeting wonderful people and a realization that everybody wasn't 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:59.000 thinking that way. I spend a lot of time in the national parks all over 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:59.000 thinking that way. I spend a lot of time in the national parks all over 00:09:59.000 --> 00:09:67.000 that whole western area, there's Yellowstone of course, and I just adored being up there in a protected environment 00:09:59.000 --> 00:09:67.000 that whole western area, there's Yellowstone of course, and I just adored being up there in a protected environment 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:14.000 because the wildlife act so differently in a protected place. It just is different. 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:14.000 because the wildlife act so differently in a protected place. It just is different. 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:22.000 I saw a great deal of pretty violent nature at work and spent a fair amount of my time fighting fires. 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:22.000 I saw a great deal of pretty violent nature at work and spent a fair amount of my time fighting fires. 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:27.000 Which is really scary and when we first started, we really didn't even have radios 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:27.000 Which is really scary and when we first started, we really didn't even have radios 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:32.000 so I'm kind of running with the flames running up my back 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:32.000 so I'm kind of running with the flames running up my back 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:36.000 and getting to the truck which did have a radio, but 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:36.000 and getting to the truck which did have a radio, but 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:44.000 it was a pretty difficult physically challenging job which is why I have so many back 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:44.000 it was a pretty difficult physically challenging job which is why I have so many back 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:52.000 and knee and leg injuries now. There's something about pounding metal on rocks which is really not very good for you. 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:52.000 and knee and leg injuries now. There's something about pounding metal on rocks which is really not very good for you. 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:56.000 We had a super crew, just a super crew. We worked with Flight For Life, we worked with the 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:56.000 We had a super crew, just a super crew. We worked with Flight For Life, we worked with the 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:64.000 sheriffs department, the teachers, the police department, the Division of Wildlife. We just had a wonderful group of people 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:64.000 sheriffs department, the teachers, the police department, the Division of Wildlife. We just had a wonderful group of people 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:09.000 that I worked with. I just adored them. They had kind of a horse program when I started 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:09.000 that I worked with. I just adored them. They had kind of a horse program when I started 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:16.000 and I enhanced that. I would regularly get yelled at for riding around in my 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:16.000 and I enhanced that. I would regularly get yelled at for riding around in my 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.000 in my ranger hat and everything else on a very flat English saddle. 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.000 in my ranger hat and everything else on a very flat English saddle. 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:36.000 I also started a ranger service dog program. The first dog I had was a 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:36.000 I also started a ranger service dog program. The first dog I had was a 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:43.000 big 110 lbs, female Shepherd Saint Bernard named Sage 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:43.000 big 110 lbs, female Shepherd Saint Bernard named Sage 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:48.000 and Sage literally saved my life a number of times. 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:48.000 and Sage literally saved my life a number of times. 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:56.000 With just drunk people reaching in and trying to pull me out the window of the truck. And she was a very quiet dog, 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:56.000 With just drunk people reaching in and trying to pull me out the window of the truck. And she was a very quiet dog, 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:62.000 but her canines were about that long and she had a black face, I should've put a picture of her in here. 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:62.000 but her canines were about that long and she had a black face, I should've put a picture of her in here. 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:08.000 So when she would rush past my face to protect me, she never bit anybody. 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:08.000 So when she would rush past my face to protect me, she never bit anybody. 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:16.000 She was great the snot out of them so she really saved me, but then this is Logan 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:16.000 She was great the snot out of them so she really saved me, but then this is Logan 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:19.000 who ended up being an internationally famous search dog. 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:19.000 who ended up being an internationally famous search dog. 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:26.000 He just was an incredible teacher. I went through a series of dogs. I had 4 or 5 dogs 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:26.000 He just was an incredible teacher. I went through a series of dogs. I had 4 or 5 dogs 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:34.000 probably that were ranger service dogs, but the best part of it was they weren't any kind of an attack dog, but I'd be 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:34.000 probably that were ranger service dogs, but the best part of it was they weren't any kind of an attack dog, but I'd be 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:41.000 working with someone who's camping and they would be sitting over there 20 30ft away 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:41.000 working with someone who's camping and they would be sitting over there 20 30ft away 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:45.000 and the person didn't know whether they would be attacked or not. 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:45.000 and the person didn't know whether they would be attacked or not. 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:51.000 So it was a tremendously protective bubble around me by having a dog, 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:51.000 So it was a tremendously protective bubble around me by having a dog, 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:59.000 but mostly the dogs really, really taught me about nature because they're so much more perceptive 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:59.000 but mostly the dogs really, really taught me about nature because they're so much more perceptive 00:12:59.000 --> 00:12:67.000 than we would ever think about being. They just are like, "I smell something. Do you wanna learn about that?" Yes! I do. 00:12:59.000 --> 00:12:67.000 than we would ever think about being. They just are like, "I smell something. Do you wanna learn about that?" Yes! I do. 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:12.000 So when people say, "who taught you the most?" It's like, "the dogs." It's a whole 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:12.000 So when people say, "who taught you the most?" It's like, "the dogs." It's a whole 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:15.000 list of dogs that really, really taught me a lot. 00:13:12.000 --> 00:13:15.000 list of dogs that really, really taught me a lot. 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:21.000 Every chance I had, I would go out into nature almost always with a dog, spend a lot of time 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:21.000 Every chance I had, I would go out into nature almost always with a dog, spend a lot of time 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:26.000 kayaking, canoeing up in Quetico and then also exploring the southwest. 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:26.000 kayaking, canoeing up in Quetico and then also exploring the southwest. 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:34.000 There's just a picture in Grand Gulch and I cannot believe in my elevated age now that I had Logan up there with me on that ledge. 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:34.000 There's just a picture in Grand Gulch and I cannot believe in my elevated age now that I had Logan up there with me on that ledge. 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:40.000 But he was extremely obedient and we were both safe, but 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:40.000 But he was extremely obedient and we were both safe, but 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:48.000 it's interesting. So because of the dogs, that lead me into a wonderful program of search and rescue. 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:48.000 it's interesting. So because of the dogs, that lead me into a wonderful program of search and rescue. 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.000 And it was very supported by the city of Boulder which is who I worked for 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.000 And it was very supported by the city of Boulder which is who I worked for 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.000 because we had calls all the time. 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.000 because we had calls all the time. 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:62.000 With the city right there, people were always getting lost or breaking their leg and they couldn't get back. 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:62.000 With the city right there, people were always getting lost or breaking their leg and they couldn't get back. 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:13.000 So we found a number of people, a number of things that were lost in the park like one of my favorite experience was a woman 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:13.000 So we found a number of people, a number of things that were lost in the park like one of my favorite experience was a woman 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:20.000 who came into the ranger cottage sobbing because she was from Germany. She was supposed to fly home the next day 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:20.000 who came into the ranger cottage sobbing because she was from Germany. She was supposed to fly home the next day 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:28.000 and she had lost her purse in the Shitaco Meadow which is that first picture I showed you 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:28.000 and she had lost her purse in the Shitaco Meadow which is that first picture I showed you 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:36.000 with like 400 other people and she's like, "it's my passport, it's my ticket, it's my money, it's everything." And I'm stuck and I said, 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:36.000 with like 400 other people and she's like, "it's my passport, it's my ticket, it's my money, it's everything." And I'm stuck and I said, 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:49.000 and in about 5 minutes he had found 4 or 5 things, one of which was her purse. So a very handy resource to have. 00:14:41.000 --> 00:14:49.000 and in about 5 minutes he had found 4 or 5 things, one of which was her purse. So a very handy resource to have. 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:57.000 And so I started just doing a lot of wilderness, work at first, and then I started founding Search and Rescue organizations 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:57.000 And so I started just doing a lot of wilderness, work at first, and then I started founding Search and Rescue organizations 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:64.000 because there really wasn't one where I was so did a local group and then a state group and then ended up 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:64.000 because there really wasn't one where I was so did a local group and then a state group and then ended up 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:11.000 helping develop, I got so involved in disaster training and so I served on 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:11.000 helping develop, I got so involved in disaster training and so I served on 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:19.000 the FEMA subcommittee which developed the National FEMA Disaster Dog Program and 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:19.000 the FEMA subcommittee which developed the National FEMA Disaster Dog Program and 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:27.000 that was just a blast. To build a program that was a national program that was of very good standard and 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:27.000 that was just a blast. To build a program that was a national program that was of very good standard and 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:36.000 it was just really, really neat. And again, that's my teacher right there. I started deploying to disasters because 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:36.000 it was just really, really neat. And again, that's my teacher right there. I started deploying to disasters because 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:40.000 there are very few jobs capable of doing that and in this 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:40.000 there are very few jobs capable of doing that and in this 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:48.000 sugar plant explosion, Jenner found the one person who had been killed, buried about 20ft down in sugar and concrete. 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:48.000 sugar plant explosion, Jenner found the one person who had been killed, buried about 20ft down in sugar and concrete. 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:56.000 And it just saved the entire town. They were all there. They would have been there every day until that person's body 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:56.000 And it just saved the entire town. They were all there. They would have been there every day until that person's body 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:64.000 was recovered so we were able to expedite the grieving and the cleaning up and everything else. Really important 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:64.000 was recovered so we were able to expedite the grieving and the cleaning up and everything else. Really important 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:12.000 and then I've just kept doing, I just certified a new dog and wilderness search just two weeks ago 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:12.000 and then I've just kept doing, I just certified a new dog and wilderness search just two weeks ago 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:21.000 so I cannot seem to give this up. But one of the big things. Go ahead. The question is: How did I learn to do this? 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:21.000 so I cannot seem to give this up. But one of the big things. Go ahead. The question is: How did I learn to do this? 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:28.000 And I basically drove around the entire country and found people that were doing it, not many at that time, 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:28.000 And I basically drove around the entire country and found people that were doing it, not many at that time, 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:32.000 And said, "Hi, I wanna do this," so I 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:32.000 And said, "Hi, I wanna do this," so I 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:38.000 really just explored and found resources, yeah, it was really fun. And a great way to meet people. 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:38.000 really just explored and found resources, yeah, it was really fun. And a great way to meet people. 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:43.000 In 2001, this is Jenner and I first crossing the bridge 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:43.000 In 2001, this is Jenner and I first crossing the bridge 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.000 there was a drop on either side of the World Trade Center 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:48.000 there was a drop on either side of the World Trade Center 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:55.000 and so we were one of the 103 FEMA dogs that worked the World Trade Center which was 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:55.000 and so we were one of the 103 FEMA dogs that worked the World Trade Center which was 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:65.000 just an awful, awful deployment as you can imagine because so many people did not expect that they were gonna die that day. 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:65.000 just an awful, awful deployment as you can imagine because so many people did not expect that they were gonna die that day. 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:13.000 And quite frankly, you could feel it. You could absolutely feel it in that environment and the dogs were tremendously helpful. 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:13.000 And quite frankly, you could feel it. You could absolutely feel it in that environment and the dogs were tremendously helpful. 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:20.000 One of the fire chiefs came up from New York and he just said, "The dogs are finding everybody. Thank you." 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:20.000 One of the fire chiefs came up from New York and he just said, "The dogs are finding everybody. Thank you." 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:29.000 And I regularly had a pastor that would come up and just go, "I need some energy. I need to hug Jenner and just absorb from him." 00:17:20.000 --> 00:17:29.000 And I regularly had a pastor that would come up and just go, "I need some energy. I need to hug Jenner and just absorb from him." 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:36.000 And then one of the morning shifts with the New York firefighters would just come in 2 3 400 people strong 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:36.000 And then one of the morning shifts with the New York firefighters would just come in 2 3 400 people strong 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:43.000 and out again and one young firefighter came and knelt down with Jenner and I just stood there and 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:43.000 and out again and one young firefighter came and knelt down with Jenner and I just stood there and 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:52.000 He looked up at me with tears streaming down his face and he said, "I lost 13 of my best friends here." And I do think 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:52.000 He looked up at me with tears streaming down his face and he said, "I lost 13 of my best friends here." And I do think 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:60.000 Jenner was the first person that he told about it. I really do. It allowed him to open up a bit and grieve. 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:60.000 Jenner was the first person that he told about it. I really do. It allowed him to open up a bit and grieve. 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:08.000 So incredible experience to do that and one of the neatest things about that whole experience was that 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:08.000 So incredible experience to do that and one of the neatest things about that whole experience was that 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:15.000 the training program we'd been building for 10 years worked. The dogs were safe, 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:15.000 the training program we'd been building for 10 years worked. The dogs were safe, 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:20.000 the dogs were able to find somebody, they didn't fall off of precipices, it was 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:20.000 the dogs were able to find somebody, they didn't fall off of precipices, it was 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:28.000 obviously these were our dogs. It's not like we rent them from somebody and send them out so they're very beloved. 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:28.000 obviously these were our dogs. It's not like we rent them from somebody and send them out so they're very beloved. 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:36.000 It's very, very hard to send your dog into a hazard like that which was the ultimate of hazards, but the dogs did great. 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:36.000 It's very, very hard to send your dog into a hazard like that which was the ultimate of hazards, but the dogs did great. 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:44.000 A couple of cut pads, that was it. So it was a really nice affirmation of the training program that we had built. 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:44.000 A couple of cut pads, that was it. So it was a really nice affirmation of the training program that we had built. 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:53.000 I really did, I've driven all over the country with a ton of dogs in the back of my truck. The brown dog is a place where I went. 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:53.000 I really did, I've driven all over the country with a ton of dogs in the back of my truck. The brown dog is a place where I went. 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:54.000 Didn't come with me. 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:54.000 Didn't come with me. 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:55.000 laughs 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:55.000 laughs 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:67.000 The chocolate lab, you can kind of see the theme. I've had yellow labs, but they didn't go well with my uniform. They shed a lot. 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:67.000 The chocolate lab, you can kind of see the theme. I've had yellow labs, but they didn't go well with my uniform. They shed a lot. 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:12.000 But anyhow, what a great way to meet people. 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:12.000 But anyhow, what a great way to meet people. 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:20.000 I've been literally from coast to coast with the dogs doing training seminars, and just helping people train 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:20.000 I've been literally from coast to coast with the dogs doing training seminars, and just helping people train 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:26.000 so I tried to reciprocate what I had learned from everybody so, very very fun. 00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:26.000 so I tried to reciprocate what I had learned from everybody so, very very fun. 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:34.000 As a member of the FEMA subcommittee, I was also able to go from '91 to 2005 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:34.000 As a member of the FEMA subcommittee, I was also able to go from '91 to 2005 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:43.000 to International Rescue Dog symposium that were held in Europe and we actually sponsored one in '95 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:43.000 to International Rescue Dog symposium that were held in Europe and we actually sponsored one in '95 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:51.000 ourselves in Boulder so we had people, 400 people from 22 countries coming to the US 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:51.000 ourselves in Boulder so we had people, 400 people from 22 countries coming to the US 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:55.000 to learn about Search and Rescue dogs and particularly disaster dogs. So 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:55.000 to learn about Search and Rescue dogs and particularly disaster dogs. So 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:61.000 just a fabulous way to meet people around the world. 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:61.000 just a fabulous way to meet people around the world. 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:11.000 I've been in Sweden and Seul and a couple times to Germany and just really a wonderful experience for me. 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:11.000 I've been in Sweden and Seul and a couple times to Germany and just really a wonderful experience for me. 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:20.000 The dog I took to the World Trade Center name was Jenner was a remarkably fit dog for search and rescue 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:20.000 The dog I took to the World Trade Center name was Jenner was a remarkably fit dog for search and rescue 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:30.000 and so I'd never intended to breed dogs, but he was a gem. So I kind of started a line, "Jenner by the Seas," line, 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:30.000 and so I'd never intended to breed dogs, but he was a gem. So I kind of started a line, "Jenner by the Seas," line, 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:37.000 and I think now at this point, there are probably 45 dogs that have become FEMA certified 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:37.000 and I think now at this point, there are probably 45 dogs that have become FEMA certified 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:46.000 because his gene, his genetics, were just meant to be search dogs. They just were, it was really funny so 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:46.000 because his gene, his genetics, were just meant to be search dogs. They just were, it was really funny so 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:51.000 I kind of allowed that to happen and facilitated it and it's been a heck of a time raising puppies. 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:51.000 I kind of allowed that to happen and facilitated it and it's been a heck of a time raising puppies. 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:55.000 But the coolest thing is, these are 3 generation. 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:55.000 But the coolest thing is, these are 3 generation. 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:62.000 There's Jenner, Tori, and a little dog that went to FEMA to New Mexico become a disaster dog. 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:62.000 There's Jenner, Tori, and a little dog that went to FEMA to New Mexico become a disaster dog. 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:10.000 The other cool thing is, I have a huge family all over the country because I always when I present someone with a puppy, I always say, 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:10.000 The other cool thing is, I have a huge family all over the country because I always when I present someone with a puppy, I always say, 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:27.000 I'm gonna go and hang out on a beach in Hanalei Bay in Kauai because a person who has one of my puppies invited me to come. 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:27.000 I'm gonna go and hang out on a beach in Hanalei Bay in Kauai because a person who has one of my puppies invited me to come. 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:35.000 And I'm like, "Yes! That's the best reward." But they are, they're really successful search dogs and it's neat to see them out there. 00:21:27.000 --> 00:21:35.000 And I'm like, "Yes! That's the best reward." But they are, they're really successful search dogs and it's neat to see them out there. 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:40.000 And they're just wonderful adventurers together. I still have 8 dogs now 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:40.000 And they're just wonderful adventurers together. I still have 8 dogs now 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:47.000 so I'm still moving about, but what a great way to see the world through their perceptions and especially 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:47.000 so I'm still moving about, but what a great way to see the world through their perceptions and especially 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:54.000 when you become acclimatized to that, they teach you so much about where you are and what you're not seeing. 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:54.000 when you become acclimatized to that, they teach you so much about where you are and what you're not seeing. 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:59.000 When I retired in 2003, I drove around for a couple of years 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:59.000 When I retired in 2003, I drove around for a couple of years 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:08.000 and then I missed work, I missed physical work. So I bought this: a 160 acre 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:08.000 and then I missed work, I missed physical work. So I bought this: a 160 acre 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:13.000 thoroughbred breading facility in Eastern Colorado and it was just 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:13.000 thoroughbred breading facility in Eastern Colorado and it was just 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:21.000 doors were off, fences were down, and what a mess. But I feel really proud of myself because I saved that place. 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:21.000 doors were off, fences were down, and what a mess. But I feel really proud of myself because I saved that place. 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:27.000 Through sheer will, I just built it up again so it actually exists and didn't crumble into the prairie, 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:27.000 Through sheer will, I just built it up again so it actually exists and didn't crumble into the prairie, 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:32.000 but it was a fabulous place. I rescued horses for a while, 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:32.000 but it was a fabulous place. I rescued horses for a while, 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:39.000 probably continue to do that, I started a program out there to teach the local people about 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:39.000 probably continue to do that, I started a program out there to teach the local people about 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:49.000 botany and raptors and waterholes and history of the planes. It's pretty boring out there in the middle of the winter 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:49.000 botany and raptors and waterholes and history of the planes. It's pretty boring out there in the middle of the winter 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:55.000 so I titled it, "Long Winter's Night" and did that for 3 or 4 years and it was fabulous and people came 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:55.000 so I titled it, "Long Winter's Night" and did that for 3 or 4 years and it was fabulous and people came 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:64.000 and it was a great way to meet people and things like that. I worked for the Colorado Division of Wildlife for 5 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:64.000 and it was a great way to meet people and things like that. I worked for the Colorado Division of Wildlife for 5 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:12.000 summers monitoring and finding raptor nests all over a six county area and it was really fun. When I left, 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:12.000 summers monitoring and finding raptor nests all over a six county area and it was really fun. When I left, 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:20.000 the person I'd worked for said, "when you started this project, there were three dots on the six county map of where nests were 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:20.000 the person I'd worked for said, "when you started this project, there were three dots on the six county map of where nests were 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:26.000 and now there's like 130. So I did really enhance the knowledge of where raptors were and 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:26.000 and now there's like 130. So I did really enhance the knowledge of where raptors were and 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:32.000 there's hardly anything better than driving around looking for birds of prey, it was just fabulous. 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:32.000 there's hardly anything better than driving around looking for birds of prey, it was just fabulous. 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:39.000 So I also taught up at the junior college in sterling and did a program with 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:39.000 So I also taught up at the junior college in sterling and did a program with 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:42.000 kids, both a first aid and 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:42.000 kids, both a first aid and 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:47.000 obedience class for them and when I started, they said, "So people can bring their dogs," and I'm like, "nope, 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:47.000 obedience class for them and when I started, they said, "So people can bring their dogs," and I'm like, "nope, 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:55.000 no, we're using my dogs." So when people would bring their kids, and these were little kids from 6 to 12, 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:55.000 no, we're using my dogs." So when people would bring their kids, and these were little kids from 6 to 12, 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:62.000 they'd open the door to the classroom and 6 or 8 of my dogs would come trotting up and door would close, they'd slam the door and I'd 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:62.000 they'd open the door to the classroom and 6 or 8 of my dogs would come trotting up and door would close, they'd slam the door and I'd 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:08.000 go out and talk to the parents, "actually it'll be just fine, they'll be just fine." And the kids 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:08.000 go out and talk to the parents, "actually it'll be just fine, they'll be just fine." And the kids 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:13.000 loved the dogs and went home. I taught the genealogy 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:13.000 loved the dogs and went home. I taught the genealogy 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:19.000 because the dogs were related to each other so I'd put charts up on that chalk board and teach them 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:19.000 because the dogs were related to each other so I'd put charts up on that chalk board and teach them 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:25.000 how the genetics works and everything. It was just a blast. It was a nice application of science. 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:25.000 how the genetics works and everything. It was just a blast. It was a nice application of science. 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:32.000 And then I also started dog training seminars which I've brought here. I started those in 2006 where people could come 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:32.000 And then I also started dog training seminars which I've brought here. I started those in 2006 where people could come 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:37.000 and do immersion training with their dogs and just talk to people and really learn and awful lot. 00:24:32.000 --> 00:24:37.000 and do immersion training with their dogs and just talk to people and really learn and awful lot. 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:44.000 I also hosted apparently every grandchild in the entire county because I was like, 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:44.000 I also hosted apparently every grandchild in the entire county because I was like, 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:55.000 So there we go. It was really fun I always loved doing that. My old patrol horse from that earlier picture 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:55.000 So there we go. It was really fun I always loved doing that. My old patrol horse from that earlier picture 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:60.000 died in my arm here at 40 years of age which is an old, old horse. 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:60.000 died in my arm here at 40 years of age which is an old, old horse. 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:07.000 And then I had another great friend. I rescued a day old steer that was in the middle of the highway. He was a 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:07.000 And then I had another great friend. I rescued a day old steer that was in the middle of the highway. He was a 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:12.000 bullet at the moment, but a little, tiny calf. He was smaller than my Labradors. 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:12.000 bullet at the moment, but a little, tiny calf. He was smaller than my Labradors. 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:19.000 I still have him. It's a wonderful association. Ulysses, anyone wants to meet Ulysses, he's quite a famous character. 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:19.000 I still have him. It's a wonderful association. Ulysses, anyone wants to meet Ulysses, he's quite a famous character. 00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:29.000 I also was really blessed to host a family and then an expanding family of barn owls. 00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:29.000 I also was really blessed to host a family and then an expanding family of barn owls. 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:35.000 There were barn owls at the farm when I moved in and I totally respected and supported them. 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:35.000 There were barn owls at the farm when I moved in and I totally respected and supported them. 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:44.000 When I left the farm in 2019, I had three different active nests of barn owls on the property so 00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:44.000 When I left the farm in 2019, I had three different active nests of barn owls on the property so 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:47.000 it was just wonderful to be able to support them. 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:47.000 it was just wonderful to be able to support them. 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:55.000 Extremely violent weather out there. I started looking for a little bit more temperate kind of environment 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:55.000 Extremely violent weather out there. I started looking for a little bit more temperate kind of environment 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.000 and I had taught a lot out here so I knew a lot of people in Oregon and they 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.000 and I had taught a lot out here so I knew a lot of people in Oregon and they 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.000 basically started a, "Let's Move Ann to Oregon" club so they did. 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.000 basically started a, "Let's Move Ann to Oregon" club so they did. 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:15.000 So I did six loads that look like the clan that's going to Oklahoma. I mean over and over and over again. It was a crack up, but we made it. 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:15.000 So I did six loads that look like the clan that's going to Oklahoma. I mean over and over and over again. It was a crack up, but we made it. 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.000 And I now live up in a little farm up in Falls City with 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.000 And I now live up in a little farm up in Falls City with 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:28.000 my steer, my goat, my pony, my four horses, my 27 chickens, I now have 8 ducks as well, and my 8 dogs so 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:28.000 my steer, my goat, my pony, my four horses, my 27 chickens, I now have 8 ducks as well, and my 8 dogs so 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:37.000 so that was quite a move. I love the ocean and I definitely entertain ideas of becoming a marine biologist. 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:37.000 so that was quite a move. I love the ocean and I definitely entertain ideas of becoming a marine biologist. 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:45.000 And I just love being able to get myself to the ocean for sanity. I became a whale watch volunteer 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:45.000 And I just love being able to get myself to the ocean for sanity. I became a whale watch volunteer 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:51.000 and of course they immediately killed the program with COVID so I'm waiting for them to come back up with that. I'm hoping. 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:51.000 and of course they immediately killed the program with COVID so I'm waiting for them to come back up with that. I'm hoping. 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:56.000 And I love the woods, I love the greenness of Oregon. 00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:56.000 And I love the woods, I love the greenness of Oregon. 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:63.000 And then I was able to search at the fires that's up by Mills City because I had the disaster experience 00:26:56.000 --> 00:26:63.000 And then I was able to search at the fires that's up by Mills City because I had the disaster experience 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:12.000 that Oregon does not have. They never had a FEMA task force, they never used dogs for disaster type situations, 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:12.000 that Oregon does not have. They never had a FEMA task force, they never used dogs for disaster type situations, 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:22.000 and so I know a lot about training dogs for disaster work so I'm really trying. We're working with Knife River Gravel down 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:22.000 and so I know a lot about training dogs for disaster work so I'm really trying. We're working with Knife River Gravel down 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:29.000 in corvallis, they're allowing us to use their big rubble piles. So I'm really trying to bring what I've learned over all those years 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:29.000 in corvallis, they're allowing us to use their big rubble piles. So I'm really trying to bring what I've learned over all those years 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:40.000 here because the fact is, we're going to have disasters here whether it's the surf side collapse, or "the big one," it's gonna happen 00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:40.000 here because the fact is, we're going to have disasters here whether it's the surf side collapse, or "the big one," it's gonna happen 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:45.000 and dogs are a phenomenal resource in finding people that are trapped in rubble. 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:45.000 and dogs are a phenomenal resource in finding people that are trapped in rubble. 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:52.000 I actually got permission for us to search the Reiser, I know you realize it's Reiser, but we did it in two days 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:52.000 I actually got permission for us to search the Reiser, I know you realize it's Reiser, but we did it in two days 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:59.000 and a lot of it, because I have a good resume in there. They let us search there, you know, mock search, obviously no one was 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:59.000 and a lot of it, because I have a good resume in there. They let us search there, you know, mock search, obviously no one was 00:27:59.000 --> 00:27:63.000 left behind in that one, but 00:27:59.000 --> 00:27:63.000 left behind in that one, but 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:08.000 we put people in there and the dogs found them so it was a really neat experience. 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:08.000 we put people in there and the dogs found them so it was a really neat experience. 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:17.000 One of the things, again I'm a total hiker, I've loved hiking in Oregon, one thing I have not enjoyed a bit 00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:17.000 One of the things, again I'm a total hiker, I've loved hiking in Oregon, one thing I have not enjoyed a bit 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:25.000 about Oregon is the apparent policy to turn Oregon into a tree farm. 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:25.000 about Oregon is the apparent policy to turn Oregon into a tree farm. 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:34.000 And this is just a clear cut that was up on Valets a couple weeks ago where warehouser cut down 00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:34.000 And this is just a clear cut that was up on Valets a couple weeks ago where warehouser cut down 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:42.000 these are probably 140 year old trees that were like cedars and hemlocks 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:42.000 these are probably 140 year old trees that were like cedars and hemlocks 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:49.000 and it would have been an easy thing for warehouser, I'm kind of a PR person, to 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:49.000 and it would have been an easy thing for warehouser, I'm kind of a PR person, to 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:58.000 designate a safe place right along Berry Creek and make some good, good, good 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:58.000 designate a safe place right along Berry Creek and make some good, good, good 00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:67.000 PR for themselves, but no, they cut every tree in a huge area. It was probably a 100 120 acre area 00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:67.000 PR for themselves, but no, they cut every tree in a huge area. It was probably a 100 120 acre area 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:16.000 and it just, these are two of my Labradors, they're not Chihuahuas, and it just was such 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:16.000 and it just, these are two of my Labradors, they're not Chihuahuas, and it just was such 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:25.000 this was probably the 9th or 10th of my favorite places to hike that, in 2 years, I have lost to clearcutting. 00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:25.000 this was probably the 9th or 10th of my favorite places to hike that, in 2 years, I have lost to clearcutting. 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:33.000 So I am engaged with a fairly significant email battle with the School of Forestry at OSU, 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:33.000 So I am engaged with a fairly significant email battle with the School of Forestry at OSU, 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:41.000 that's why I was asking if there's forestry school here, about management of forests because I just don't find 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:41.000 that's why I was asking if there's forestry school here, about management of forests because I just don't find 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:52.000 with more current research, that the research is being applied to the old practices left over from 2000 and 1890. 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:52.000 with more current research, that the research is being applied to the old practices left over from 2000 and 1890. 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:60.000 Frankly, and I'm a huge worrier of clear cutters and, quite frankly, a huge worrier about 00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:60.000 Frankly, and I'm a huge worrier of clear cutters and, quite frankly, a huge worrier about 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:11.000 are human, I believe the word is, "anthropogenic" impact on our forests, our lands, our oceans, 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:11.000 are human, I believe the word is, "anthropogenic" impact on our forests, our lands, our oceans, 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:18.000 and I've been attending, I don't know if you've ever heard of the Academy of Lifelong Learning. 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:18.000 and I've been attending, I don't know if you've ever heard of the Academy of Lifelong Learning. 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.000 Really neat program coming out of Corvallis. 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:22.000 Really neat program coming out of Corvallis. 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:31.000 So I was asked to speak about search dogs and just got netted in with these people, I just love the programs. 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:31.000 So I was asked to speak about search dogs and just got netted in with these people, I just love the programs. 00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:41.000 And a lot of the programs they're giving are about climate change and what it is. I think most people 00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:41.000 And a lot of the programs they're giving are about climate change and what it is. I think most people 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:49.000 and I don't wanna say it's unsolvable because I am a very hopeful person and 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:49.000 and I don't wanna say it's unsolvable because I am a very hopeful person and 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:58.000 as somebody once said to me, "Once hope gets a hold of you, it don't ever let go." So I am a believer in hope, but 00:30:49.000 --> 00:30:58.000 as somebody once said to me, "Once hope gets a hold of you, it don't ever let go." So I am a believer in hope, but 00:30:58.000 --> 00:30:65.000 lot of really good ideas are coming out of these lectures from wonderful people like this 00:30:58.000 --> 00:30:65.000 lot of really good ideas are coming out of these lectures from wonderful people like this 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:14.000 Kathleen Dean Moore, that I spoke to you about, philosophers, and people who really care about our planet. 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:14.000 Kathleen Dean Moore, that I spoke to you about, philosophers, and people who really care about our planet. 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:21.000 And one of the things that they really recommend in this is try communicating. 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:21.000 And one of the things that they really recommend in this is try communicating. 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:27.000 How to you communicate about climate change in such a desperately depressing topic? 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:27.000 How to you communicate about climate change in such a desperately depressing topic? 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.000 And the fact is, they just said, "talk about it." 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.000 And the fact is, they just said, "talk about it." 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:37.000 So I decided to totally add it in because I'm very much encouraging each and every one of you 00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:37.000 So I decided to totally add it in because I'm very much encouraging each and every one of you 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:43.000 to talk about it and when you talk about things, you find what people care about 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:43.000 to talk about it and when you talk about things, you find what people care about 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:53.000 and it is, I think, one of the most important things I learned from some of these lectures is that 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:53.000 and it is, I think, one of the most important things I learned from some of these lectures is that 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:61.000 it's not because I drove here to do this lecture. They're really stressing 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:61.000 it's not because I drove here to do this lecture. They're really stressing 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:10.000 you did not cause climate change, you or you or you or you. It's a systemic way that we treat the planet 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:10.000 you did not cause climate change, you or you or you or you. It's a systemic way that we treat the planet 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.000 that as we all hoped for when COVID started and the dolphins were back in 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:15.000 that as we all hoped for when COVID started and the dolphins were back in 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.000 the base in Florence and whether that was faked or not, I don't care. 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:19.000 the base in Florence and whether that was faked or not, I don't care. 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:27.000 I loved it. But we have to systemically change the way we treat the planet. 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:27.000 I loved it. But we have to systemically change the way we treat the planet. 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:35.000 And you guys are in science and it's a funny thing, 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:35.000 And you guys are in science and it's a funny thing, 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.000 I'm in the stage of my life. This is me, the representative of me. 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.000 I'm in the stage of my life. This is me, the representative of me. 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:41.000 laughs 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:41.000 laughs 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:47.000 This is my older dog, Trevor, who's definitely resting on his laurels and yet a 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:47.000 This is my older dog, Trevor, who's definitely resting on his laurels and yet a 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:52.000 fabulous dog. "Trevor the True," is what everybody always called him, but 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:52.000 fabulous dog. "Trevor the True," is what everybody always called him, but 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:56.000 at the same time, I have a couple young dogs that I'm still going for it with. 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:56.000 at the same time, I have a couple young dogs that I'm still going for it with. 00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:63.000 So both, whether you're older or younger, that's a great mentor of mine that's now died, but 00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:63.000 So both, whether you're older or younger, that's a great mentor of mine that's now died, but 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:11.000 I'm in that stage of my life. Where my ability to do things and impact people is 00:33:03.000 --> 00:33:11.000 I'm in that stage of my life. Where my ability to do things and impact people is 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:18.000 waning, let's call it waning just because I'm old. So I really wanna encourage all of you here 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:18.000 waning, let's call it waning just because I'm old. So I really wanna encourage all of you here 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:25.000 to learn as much as much as you can, to teach as much as you can, and to just be bold. 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:25.000 to learn as much as much as you can, to teach as much as you can, and to just be bold. 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.000 To just go for it because especially 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.000 To just go for it because especially 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:36.000 in the realm of climate change and biodiversity loss, and all of those things that are happening 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:36.000 in the realm of climate change and biodiversity loss, and all of those things that are happening 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:40.000 right now, we must be bold. We must 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:40.000 right now, we must be bold. We must 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:43.000 go for it, we must jump in the pot, and save the planet. 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:43.000 go for it, we must jump in the pot, and save the planet. 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.000 I'm always bumping into young people on the trails. I'm going like, 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.000 I'm always bumping into young people on the trails. I'm going like, 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:51.000 third sentence: "what are you gonna do to save the world?" 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:51.000 third sentence: "what are you gonna do to save the world?" 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:56.000 So no pressure, but one thing, 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:56.000 So no pressure, but one thing, 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:62.000 I designed a wonderful little nature trail at Coot Lake, one of the parks. 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:62.000 I designed a wonderful little nature trail at Coot Lake, one of the parks. 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:08.000 And a friend of mine was a fabulous artist, Sue Wise, she just died last April at 101. 00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:08.000 And a friend of mine was a fabulous artist, Sue Wise, she just died last April at 101. 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:16.000 Big loss to the world. But I matched her paintings. There's a beautiful backdrop of color where it was. 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:16.000 Big loss to the world. But I matched her paintings. There's a beautiful backdrop of color where it was. 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:23.000 Her paintings with quotes that I loved and I mean no offense to the professors here, but it says, 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:23.000 Her paintings with quotes that I loved and I mean no offense to the professors here, but it says, 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:39.000 And I am going to propose to you that one of the best ways to learn anything 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:39.000 And I am going to propose to you that one of the best ways to learn anything 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:44.000 is to pay attention and become more aware. 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:44.000 is to pay attention and become more aware. 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:48.000 Obviously we need our book learning, we need our degrees, we need all that stuff, 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:48.000 Obviously we need our book learning, we need our degrees, we need all that stuff, 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:52.000 but I always laugh. My niece took this picture on San Diego beach. 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:52.000 but I always laugh. My niece took this picture on San Diego beach. 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:58.000 And as soon as she took it and sent it to me, I said, "that is a picture of the way my mind works." 00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:58.000 And as soon as she took it and sent it to me, I said, "that is a picture of the way my mind works." 00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:66.000 I call myself a bubble brain. So maybe that's why I can say, "there's a swaint," and still drive on the road or whatever. 00:34:58.000 --> 00:34:66.000 I call myself a bubble brain. So maybe that's why I can say, "there's a swaint," and still drive on the road or whatever. 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:14.000 But, I encourage you to bring in to science, to bring in emotion and awareness 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:14.000 But, I encourage you to bring in to science, to bring in emotion and awareness 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:19.000 and caring and it is, it's not a sterile world out there. 00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:19.000 and caring and it is, it's not a sterile world out there. 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.000 There are people that have done that. I really encourage you to muse 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:24.000 There are people that have done that. I really encourage you to muse 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:30.000 A little bit about, "what can I do?" and, "what can I see?" and, "what can I learn about nature." 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:30.000 A little bit about, "what can I do?" and, "what can I see?" and, "what can I learn about nature." 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:37.000 I've always loved this picture because it's so, "don't just follow what everybody else is doing. Do what you wanna do!" 00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:37.000 I've always loved this picture because it's so, "don't just follow what everybody else is doing. Do what you wanna do!" 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:46.000 Be yellow! I should tell that to my dogs. I've always loved this quote from Albert Schweitzer and I think it's absolutely true. 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:46.000 Be yellow! I should tell that to my dogs. I've always loved this quote from Albert Schweitzer and I think it's absolutely true. 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:55.000 If you can find a mission that helps someone or something, and I am a big inclusive, 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:55.000 If you can find a mission that helps someone or something, and I am a big inclusive, 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:60.000 it's not just about humankind it's about all kind. 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:60.000 it's not just about humankind it's about all kind. 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:08.000 It really gives you an incredibly satisfying career and life and you can sleep at night. 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:08.000 It really gives you an incredibly satisfying career and life and you can sleep at night. 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:16.000 That's the end of my little slide rendition and I'm more than happy if anybody has any questions 00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:16.000 That's the end of my little slide rendition and I'm more than happy if anybody has any questions 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:21.000 or comments. I did copy off 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:21.000 or comments. I did copy off 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:29.000 I have 20 sheets of readings that I recommend. Things like Kathleen Dean Moore's book and 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:29.000 I have 20 sheets of readings that I recommend. Things like Kathleen Dean Moore's book and 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.000 the braiding sweetgrass book and I brought 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.000 the braiding sweetgrass book and I brought 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:39.000 many of these books were written by women, but this book which was written by a male, 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:39.000 many of these books were written by women, but this book which was written by a male, 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:49.000 German forester who was taught to plant trees in the line and they do not get out of the line, because I've been in German forests 00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:49.000 German forester who was taught to plant trees in the line and they do not get out of the line, because I've been in German forests 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:56.000 who wrote one of the most sensitive and wonderful books and it's aptly named, "The Hidden Name of Trees." 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:56.000 who wrote one of the most sensitive and wonderful books and it's aptly named, "The Hidden Name of Trees." 00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:64.000 So I'm gonna really recommend this book to you. Welcome to come up and thumb through it, but one of the new 00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:64.000 So I'm gonna really recommend this book to you. Welcome to come up and thumb through it, but one of the new 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:12.000 information on forest ecology and the role of fungi in the forest and just the interconnectedness 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:12.000 information on forest ecology and the role of fungi in the forest and just the interconnectedness 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:20.000 of our entire world. Obviously the ocean, put some Silvia Earl books in there. Fabulous books that are both an alarm call 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:20.000 of our entire world. Obviously the ocean, put some Silvia Earl books in there. Fabulous books that are both an alarm call 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:28.000 and there's a heck of a lot to learn out there. So, thank you for your attention. 00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:28.000 and there's a heck of a lot to learn out there. So, thank you for your attention. 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.000 Thank you very much 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.000 Thank you very much 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:36.000 applause 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:36.000 applause 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:44.000 The question is, "how did I obtain Jenner and was it for the express purpose of doing search and rescue?" And the answer is yes. 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:44.000 The question is, "how did I obtain Jenner and was it for the express purpose of doing search and rescue?" And the answer is yes. 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:53.000 I had this wonderful teacher dog named Logan who, he was that, 00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:53.000 I had this wonderful teacher dog named Logan who, he was that, 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:08.000 I'm up in the Indian Peaks wilderness hiking with Logan, and a man in saffron robes and a turban comes walking towards me 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:08.000 I'm up in the Indian Peaks wilderness hiking with Logan, and a man in saffron robes and a turban comes walking towards me 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.000 and I immediately got Logan close to me because I think 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.000 and I immediately got Logan close to me because I think 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:17.000 of that culture as not being appreciative: dogs are unclean, things like that. So Logan's sitting there 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:17.000 of that culture as not being appreciative: dogs are unclean, things like that. So Logan's sitting there 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:26.000 The man walks by, he stops, he bows to Logan. Logan's looking up at him and starts speaking to him 00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:26.000 The man walks by, he stops, he bows to Logan. Logan's looking up at him and starts speaking to him 00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:31.000 in what I might assume is Hindi and he bows again 00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:31.000 in what I might assume is Hindi and he bows again 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:35.000 and starts walking off. Of course I'm a park ranger, I'm like, "excuse me sir, 00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:35.000 and starts walking off. Of course I'm a park ranger, I'm like, "excuse me sir, 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:39.000 what did you say to my dog?" And he turned to me and he said, 00:38:35.000 --> 00:38:39.000 what did you say to my dog?" And he turned to me and he said, 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.000 And so at that moment at that time, I didn't know what Bodhisattva meant, but 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.000 And so at that moment at that time, I didn't know what Bodhisattva meant, but 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:57.000 apparently it explicitly means, "a highly enlightened soul that has come back to earth to teach." 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:57.000 apparently it explicitly means, "a highly enlightened soul that has come back to earth to teach." 00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:67.000 And it totally was Logan. So, I didn't wanna retire Logan. He's fabulous, world famous, 00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:67.000 And it totally was Logan. So, I didn't wanna retire Logan. He's fabulous, world famous, 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:13.000 changed the 1991 Symposium, he was like the hero of the symposium 00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:13.000 changed the 1991 Symposium, he was like the hero of the symposium 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:22.000 and I didn't want to get a new dog and he picked Jenner. And a friend found him 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:22.000 and I didn't want to get a new dog and he picked Jenner. And a friend found him 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:30.000 and I'm driving down the ocean, this friend is very wise, and I said, "I'm taking him because I don't wanna hurt Logan's feelings." 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:30.000 and I'm driving down the ocean, this friend is very wise, and I said, "I'm taking him because I don't wanna hurt Logan's feelings." 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:37.000 And she said, "well if you did take this puppy, what would you name it?" And I'm driving by the sign that says, "Jenner by the Sea." 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:37.000 And she said, "well if you did take this puppy, what would you name it?" And I'm driving by the sign that says, "Jenner by the Sea." 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:44.000 You're sunk then, you name it, you got it! So nice question, thank you. 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:44.000 You're sunk then, you name it, you got it! So nice question, thank you. 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:53.000 That's a good question. The question is, "how did people know how to call me to do things like working at the World Trade Center?" 00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:53.000 That's a good question. The question is, "how did people know how to call me to do things like working at the World Trade Center?" 00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:62.000 I was very lucky because I was a park ranger in an environment in a county, where frankly volunteers had shown up 00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:62.000 I was very lucky because I was a park ranger in an environment in a county, where frankly volunteers had shown up 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:09.000 with Fluffy from the couch, no experience, and Fluffy can find you she finds my grandchildren. 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:09.000 with Fluffy from the couch, no experience, and Fluffy can find you she finds my grandchildren. 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:15.000 And basically the law enforcement had decided they would never call a search and rescue dog again, but they knew me. 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:15.000 And basically the law enforcement had decided they would never call a search and rescue dog again, but they knew me. 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:22.000 I worked with them. They said, "if you say it works, I trust you." So I was able to start my local response that way. 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:22.000 I worked with them. They said, "if you say it works, I trust you." So I was able to start my local response that way. 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:31.000 The FEMA system that I helped develop was a national system with 28 FEMA task forces placed all over the country. 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:31.000 The FEMA system that I helped develop was a national system with 28 FEMA task forces placed all over the country. 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:40.000 So that's what gets deployed to big hurricanes. You still see them. They're deployed to surf side and actually 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:40.000 So that's what gets deployed to big hurricanes. You still see them. They're deployed to surf side and actually 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:49.000 one of my dogs that I bred made the first live find there so they're still doing well, but we were deployed as Colorado Task Force 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:49.000 one of my dogs that I bred made the first live find there so they're still doing well, but we were deployed as Colorado Task Force 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.000 so it's not like they call Ann Wichmann. 00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.000 so it's not like they call Ann Wichmann. 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:59.000 So it's a way more elaborate system now of how search and rescue works. 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:59.000 So it's a way more elaborate system now of how search and rescue works. 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:09.000 And in Oregon and most states, search and rescue is the responsibility of the sheriff so you just have to get yourself known there 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:09.000 And in Oregon and most states, search and rescue is the responsibility of the sheriff so you just have to get yourself known there 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:12.000 and then the sheriff will call out the groups that you have. 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:12.000 and then the sheriff will call out the groups that you have. 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:22.000 There's a really good group here, R3, Region Three Canine that I'm now a member of that works in the 4 or 5 counties in Region 3. 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:22.000 There's a really good group here, R3, Region Three Canine that I'm now a member of that works in the 4 or 5 counties in Region 3. 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.000 So that's how we get called. 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.000 So that's how we get called. 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:29.000 The question is, "how do I afford to do all of these things?" 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:29.000 The question is, "how do I afford to do all of these things?" 00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:33.000 I am not secretly from a wealthy family. 00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:33.000 I am not secretly from a wealthy family. 00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:40.000 I started off as a park ranger, I think, at 5 dollars and 13 cents an hour. 00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:40.000 I started off as a park ranger, I think, at 5 dollars and 13 cents an hour. 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:48.000 The really lucky thing for me is that the City of Boulder, unlike the world as we know it now, 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:48.000 The really lucky thing for me is that the City of Boulder, unlike the world as we know it now, 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:57.000 had a retirement program. So someone asked me when I was 3 or 4 years into the park ranger job. They said, 00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:57.000 had a retirement program. So someone asked me when I was 3 or 4 years into the park ranger job. They said, 00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:06.000 I have no interest in worrying in my retirement. 00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:06.000 I have no interest in worrying in my retirement. 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:13.000 I went to New Zealand, I went to Africa, I just didn't worry about it and I lucked out. 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:13.000 I went to New Zealand, I went to Africa, I just didn't worry about it and I lucked out. 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:29.000 And frankly, the dog things, people, they want the knowledge. I don't usually hardly charge anything 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:29.000 And frankly, the dog things, people, they want the knowledge. I don't usually hardly charge anything 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:36.000 unless it's appropriate to do that and people just put me up in their houses and feed me and I teach them. 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:36.000 unless it's appropriate to do that and people just put me up in their houses and feed me and I teach them. 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:37.000 It's great. 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:37.000 It's great. 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:38.000 laughter 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:38.000 laughter 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:44.000 Oregon sandwiched between Washington has a task force and California which has 8. 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:44.000 Oregon sandwiched between Washington has a task force and California which has 8. 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:51.000 So for some reason and I don't know why, but in the '89 '90 time period, Oregon just didn't 00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:51.000 So for some reason and I don't know why, but in the '89 '90 time period, Oregon just didn't 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:60.000 wasn't able to put together the very, very expensive and complex structure to have a task force. 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:60.000 wasn't able to put together the very, very expensive and complex structure to have a task force. 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:09.000 So I don't think they even applied for one, but they didn't get one and now they're 28 and there's not gonna be more of those so 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:09.000 So I don't think they even applied for one, but they didn't get one and now they're 28 and there's not gonna be more of those so 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:14.000 yeah there's 28 task forces, it's not like, "I'd like to make one," you just don't do that. 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:14.000 yeah there's 28 task forces, it's not like, "I'd like to make one," you just don't do that. 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:24.000 A lot of the states have developed state task forces, but again, Oregon has not so I'm just kind of delving into this of 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:24.000 A lot of the states have developed state task forces, but again, Oregon has not so I'm just kind of delving into this of 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:32.000 why in a state like this, with the fires and everything else, isn't more disaster preparedness? 00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:32.000 why in a state like this, with the fires and everything else, isn't more disaster preparedness? 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:37.000 And so I'm talking to people in the Corvallis Fire Department because they seemed 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:37.000 And so I'm talking to people in the Corvallis Fire Department because they seemed 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:44.000 interested and I actually wanna catch up to the state OEM coordinator and just 00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:44.000 interested and I actually wanna catch up to the state OEM coordinator and just 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:51.000 find out more about that and it takes a tremendous USR and the 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:51.000 find out more about that and it takes a tremendous USR and the 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:58.000 acronym is "Urban Search and Rescue," also known as, "Useless Stacking and Restacking," because you move 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:58.000 acronym is "Urban Search and Rescue," also known as, "Useless Stacking and Restacking," because you move 00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:63.000 a heck of a lot of heavy things from one place to another, but 00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:63.000 a heck of a lot of heavy things from one place to another, but 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:13.000 Oregon just hasn't done that cooperative, couple fire departments getting together to do that. So I'm working on that. 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:13.000 Oregon just hasn't done that cooperative, couple fire departments getting together to do that. So I'm working on that. 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:21.000 And especially the dogs are so integral to being able to find people in those situations, quickly. 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:21.000 And especially the dogs are so integral to being able to find people in those situations, quickly. 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:30.000 Which there's a golden 2 hours of saving someone that's in a collapse. 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:30.000 Which there's a golden 2 hours of saving someone that's in a collapse. 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:38.000 And we use WOU campus, thank you very much, a lot because it's pretty safe and it's intricate and it's got all these funny little 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:38.000 And we use WOU campus, thank you very much, a lot because it's pretty safe and it's intricate and it's got all these funny little 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:45.000 pathways and everything so I've done a heck of a lot of trails. I just administered a test 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:45.000 pathways and everything so I've done a heck of a lot of trails. I just administered a test 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:51.000 with a person hidden right back there, with a test we started off at the Bi-Mart 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:51.000 with a person hidden right back there, with a test we started off at the Bi-Mart 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:56.000 basically at the credit union and trailed through the suburban area and over to campus 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:56.000 basically at the credit union and trailed through the suburban area and over to campus 00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:63.000 and located the person right there. We do area search here too, but it's just a nice, safe 00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:63.000 and located the person right there. We do area search here too, but it's just a nice, safe 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:09.000 area and WOU have been very nice to allow us to do that. 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:09.000 area and WOU have been very nice to allow us to do that. 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:18.000 Yeah, we do practices as part of Region 3 Canine, but we also, I'm a founder and a board member of SARDUS which is 00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:18.000 Yeah, we do practices as part of Region 3 Canine, but we also, I'm a founder and a board member of SARDUS which is 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:32.000 And so the test I just did was a SARDUS test for a team in Washington State that a lot of the 00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:32.000 And so the test I just did was a SARDUS test for a team in Washington State that a lot of the 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:42.000 the local teams are getting away from, "I'll certify you if you certify me," which is, when you're starting off sometimes that happens. 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:42.000 the local teams are getting away from, "I'll certify you if you certify me," which is, when you're starting off sometimes that happens. 00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:50.000 And they're striving of a better, more competent national standard. So as a SARDUS 00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:50.000 And they're striving of a better, more competent national standard. So as a SARDUS 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:56.000 principal, I guess I would call myself. I often get called or go somewhere to put those on. 00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:56.000 principal, I guess I would call myself. I often get called or go somewhere to put those on. 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:64.000 That's a very good question. When we train, it's very happy, it's exciting, it's like runaways, it's like big "woohoo," parties. 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:64.000 That's a very good question. When we train, it's very happy, it's exciting, it's like runaways, it's like big "woohoo," parties. 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:11.000 And so when we actually transition to finding real people that are lost, they are usually horrified that they're lost, scared, 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:11.000 And so when we actually transition to finding real people that are lost, they are usually horrified that they're lost, scared, 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:21.000 cold, despondent, all of those things. And obviously cadavers a very sensitive, we call that Human Remains Detection. 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:21.000 cold, despondent, all of those things. And obviously cadavers a very sensitive, we call that Human Remains Detection. 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:29.000 And it's a different set up in how do the dogs feel emotionally and that was really true at the World Trade Center. 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:29.000 And it's a different set up in how do the dogs feel emotionally and that was really true at the World Trade Center. 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:36.000 As I mentioned, the angst of that site was palpable. 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:36.000 As I mentioned, the angst of that site was palpable. 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:46.000 The families were there, people who had lost people, the firefighters had lost their friends. 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:46.000 The families were there, people who had lost people, the firefighters had lost their friends. 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:51.000 It was extremely depressing. That's all there is to it. And 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:51.000 It was extremely depressing. That's all there is to it. And 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:61.000 we just trained the dogs so the dogs think that every time they find someone that's lost, they have a toy. 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:61.000 we just trained the dogs so the dogs think that every time they find someone that's lost, they have a toy. 00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:11.000 So, it's all about toys and I always laugh because I think of dogs as maturing at about the 7 year old child level. 00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:11.000 So, it's all about toys and I always laugh because I think of dogs as maturing at about the 7 year old child level. 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:19.000 And they are, they're fun, they're happy, they're excited. They're thrilled with doing anything you want and so we bring that back. 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:19.000 And they are, they're fun, they're happy, they're excited. They're thrilled with doing anything you want and so we bring that back. 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:29.000 We'll do a little happy thing for the dogs and people are horrified. I say, "you can do an HRD runaway." 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:29.000 We'll do a little happy thing for the dogs and people are horrified. I say, "you can do an HRD runaway." 00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:47.000 So you can make up training things that keep them up, but the biggest thing 00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:47.000 So you can make up training things that keep them up, but the biggest thing 00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:54.000 is they so reflect our emotions. It's quite frankly, we can't lose it. 00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:54.000 is they so reflect our emotions. It's quite frankly, we can't lose it. 00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:65.000 We may lose it later, but that's the hope. Just don't let go of hope. Yup, we always hafta think we're gonna find someone. 00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:65.000 We may lose it later, but that's the hope. Just don't let go of hope. Yup, we always hafta think we're gonna find someone. 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.000 Woman Speaker: Thank you so much, you've been great. Really appreciate it. 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:09.000 Woman Speaker: Thank you so much, you've been great. Really appreciate it. 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:14.000 applause 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:14.000 applause