WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.000 as said I'm Michael Odell 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:02.000 I'm the Roosth Chair at the 00:00:02.000 --> 00:00:04.000 University of Texas at Tyler 00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:05.000 and I actually have slides that go more 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:09.000 into my -- background and -- 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:10.000 I've applied for the position 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:13.000 of -- of -- Graduate Dean 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:15.000 and -- Director of Sponsored 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:17.000 Research I grabbed these maps 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:19.000 off just to kind of show I 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:20.000 know you know where this stuff 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:23.000 is but I do too now okay and 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.000 so I know where the -- -- the 00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:26.000 different institutions are and 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:28.000 also the population centers and 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:29.000 that's important for people like 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:30.000 me from Texas because when we 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:31.000 visit the United States it's 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:34.000 always good for us to have a 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:36.000 better idea have the understanding 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:39.000 okay sorry and then I also look to 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:40.000 see your accreditations just 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:43.000 we are SACS which is a very 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:45.000 different but similar mission 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:46.000 and I am familiar with CAEP 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:49.000 did read a little bit about 00:00:49.000 --> 00:00:51.000 them so thought I'd give you a little 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:52.000 background there will be more 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:54.000 jokes sorry I am a product of 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:56.000 public education I graduated 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:57.000 from Plano High School which 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.000 makes me a Plano Texan okay 00:00:59.000 --> 00:00:61.000 anyway I went to the 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.000 University of Texas at Dallas I don't know if you 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:04.000 know much about it but it's 00:01:04.000 --> 00:01:06.000 one of the big institutions 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:08.000 did my doctoral work at Indiana 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:09.000 and got my first job at the 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:11.000 University of Idaho so I've spent 00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:13.000 time in the northwest or what 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:14.000 we call the Inland Northwest 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:16.000 if you're in Idaho and while 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:19.000 there I created an institute -- 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:20.000 it's call the Institute for Mathematics 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:21.000 Interactive Technology and 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:23.000 Science and it brought together 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:24.000 the engineering colleges the 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:25.000 some of the arts and science 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:27.000 primarily physics and we ended 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:29.000 up getting a lot of -- NASA 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.000 money at the time and then 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:32.000 while I was there I was sharing 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.000 the story with -- earlier 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:35.000 with someone I can't remember who 00:01:35.000 --> 00:01:37.000 but -- I ended up going to 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:39.000 NASA for a couple years on a 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.000 rotator position and it was not 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:42.000 because I was graded anything 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:43.000 I just happened to be in the right 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:45.000 place at the right time and 00:01:46.000 --> 00:01:47.000 which really opened the doors and 00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:49.000 connected let me get connected 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:50.000 with a number of different 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:52.000 agencies and and actually get 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:53.000 to see a little bit different 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:55.000 perspective and then I was part 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:58.000 of the Nova program which was 00:01:58.000 --> 00:01:60.000 a program that NASA funded to 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.000 rethink undergraduate teaching 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:04.000 of STEM courses now then we 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:05.000 didn't call it STEM we called 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:06.000 it SMET that sounded bad so 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.000 they changed it to STEM but 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:13.000 more students would go into 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.000 STEM if they had a better 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.000 experience in those freshmen 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.000 and sophomore courses and we 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:20.000 served a number of universities 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:21.000 and they actually have an 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:22.000 archive site where you can kind of see 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:23.000 all the universities that were 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:28.000 involved -- that then led me 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:30.000 I spent twelve years in Idaho 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:32.000 then I -- had the opportunity 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:35.000 to go to Illinois state I was 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:36.000 there for a year and I got 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:38.000 a phone call and I got this 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:39.000 incredible offer from the 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:40.000 University of Texas at Tyler 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:43.000 to be an endowed chair and the 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:44.000 money was good and all that 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:46.000 stuff and so I -- I took the 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:47.000 job where I then started what's 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:49.000 called the Ingenuity Center 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:51.000 it's a soft money shop in its 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.000 heyday it had over five hundred 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:55.000 employees at one time supported 00:02:55.000 --> 00:02:56.000 lots of students had lots of 00:02:56.000 --> 00:02:57.000 grants and I'll show you some 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:58.000 slides later about kind of what 00:02:58.000 --> 00:02:61.000 we did there and when I got 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:02.000 to the University of Texas at Tyler 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:04.000 they had about half a million 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:07.000 dollars in external funding -- 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:09.000 it was one of the newer UT campuses 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:12.000 and -- we've but we grew it to 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:14.000 in a few minutes I also had the opportunity 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:16.000 to get a fellowship at the 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:17.000 Globe Program are you guys familiar with 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:19.000 Globe at all it's an environmental 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:22.000 program it's funded by NASA 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.000 NSF -- NOAA and the US Department 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:26.000 of State -- international program -- 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:28.000 but anyway I spent a year in 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:33.000 at the -- UCAR which is the 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:35.000 for atmospheric research and 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:37.000 then -- that map shows you all 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:38.000 the different sort of globe 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:40.000 countries so it's a big deal 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:41.000 some of the time China is a 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:43.000 member but I guess we're in 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:44.000 a spat right now so they stopped 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:45.000 being a member for the moment 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:47.000 and they'll be back later I 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:49.000 also -- if you do CTE 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:51.000 or you familiar with Project Lead the Way 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.000 so I was the affiliate director 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:54.000 for the state of Texas and we 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:55.000 grew the project lead the way 00:03:55.000 --> 00:03:58.000 program to over forty thousand 00:03:58.000 --> 00:03:59.000 students in the state and most 00:03:59.000 --> 00:03:60.000 of them were taking some form 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:02.000 of dual credit through us so that 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:04.000 was really nice and then the 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.000 city had a children's museum 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:07.000 it was struggling and not one 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:08.000 of my shinier moments but I 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:09.000 walked into their board meeting 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:10.000 and said -- you know the 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:12.000 university should take you over 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:13.000 you'd be better off and they 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.000 threw me out promptly and then 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:16.000 about six weeks later I got 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:18.000 a call saying what did you have 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:20.000 in mind and so it worked out 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:21.000 great relationship the museum 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:23.000 makes enough money now the we 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:24.000 have a an outreach center as a 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:27.000 result and then -- started the 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.000 University Academies when they 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:30.000 originally were chartered 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:32.000 they were called the innovation academies 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:33.000 these were designed to be 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:34.000 laboratory schools though when 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:36.000 the charter rules changed it 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:37.000 became very cost effective 00:04:37.000 --> 00:04:39.000 and the university actually 00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:43.000 support as a result of that 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:47.000 million dollars a year as a 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:48.000 result but no funding from 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.000 the university budget can be 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:52.000 used towards the schools and 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.000 so that was sort of a win win 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:57.000 win scenario for everybody 00:04:57.000 --> 00:04:58.000 and then -- I'm involved with 00:04:58.000 --> 00:04:60.000 the Texas Stem Coalition which 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.000 is a 501c3 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:04.000 it's an outgrowth of 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:05.000 the ingenuity center and the 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:06.000 other six centers that were 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:08.000 in the state when the Texas 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:09.000 education agency said that we 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:11.000 would no longer have funding 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:13.000 for -- direct funding for STEM 00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:14.000 centers that we were charged 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:15.000 with becoming self sufficient 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:17.000 we are self sufficient we host 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:19.000 an annual STEM conference -- 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:21.000 we had it last week in Austin 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:23.000 people there we've had as many 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:24.000 as eleven hundred but it's a 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:26.000 big but hosting conferences 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:27.000 believe it or not it can be 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:28.000 another revenue stream that 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.000 you may or may not have ever 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:31.000 thought about and so then the 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:33.000 question is what's next well 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.000 I I applied for this position 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:36.000 it's the only position I applied 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:38.000 for I'm perfectly happy in my 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.000 current position I do own a 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:44.000 home in Oregon so -- 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.000 I live in Newport basically 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:48.000 part time and so -- my wife 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:49.000 would really prefer to live up 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:50.000 here and so -- you know you do 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:53.000 what your wife says right so on your job 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:54.000 application you asked about a 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:55.000 transformational leader I'll 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.000 be honest I'd not seen the 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:59.000 transformational leader model 00:05:59.000 --> 00:05:60.000 I was not familiar with that 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:02.000 so on the right I kinda have 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:03.000 a line of what I kind of use as my 00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:05.000 leadership model and you'll see there 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:07.000 is some cross areas so purpose 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:10.000 driven well every program or 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:11.000 institution I've ever worked 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:12.000 at it's been all about what is 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:14.000 the mission that we're we have 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:15.000 and where we're gonna go and 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:17.000 whatever we do it has to align 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:19.000 to that mission with K-12 -- 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:20.000 K-12 work we have a blueprint 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:22.000 we use for the schools I work 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:23.000 with to do school improvement 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:26.000 we don't do it if -- if it 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:27.000 can be aligned to the blueprint 00:06:27.000 --> 00:06:29.000 we do it and and it can be 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:31.000 anything it just has to align 00:06:31.000 --> 00:06:34.000 inspiring followers I'm more 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:35.000 of a team guy I'm not don't 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:36.000 really want people following 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:38.000 me around that's kinda creepy 00:06:38.000 --> 00:06:41.000 and so the the idea would be 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:42.000 that -- I've always set up 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:44.000 teams so in the schools that 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.000 I designed in Tyler we have 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:50.000 a -- instructional team and 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:52.000 a administrative team -- there's 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:53.000 a lot of research literature 00:06:53.000 --> 00:06:54.000 and if you're in a leadership 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:55.000 this might not make you happy 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:57.000 but we decided principals 00:06:57.000 --> 00:06:58.000 have too much time then to 00:06:58.000 --> 00:06:59.000 be the instructional leader 00:06:59.000 --> 00:06:60.000 they've got too many other 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:02.000 things to do so we set up a 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:03.000 with coaching and they handle 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:04.000 all the STAAR assessments 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:06.000 and things that we do in Texas 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.000 that are crazy and -- and so -- and 00:07:09.000 --> 00:07:11.000 those schools are highly rated 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:12.000 when we started work in urban 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.000 schools the model had to be 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.000 adjusted and we have three 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.000 teams we have a instructional 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.000 team we have a administrative team 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:22.000 and we have a student support 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:24.000 team which is basically an SEL team 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:28.000 practices and and -- totally 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:30.000 different sort of set up than 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.000 what we would do in a less 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:34.000 diverse school and so the next 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:36.000 one up there but it -- the 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:38.000 key is I underlined success 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:40.000 everyone has to be successful 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:41.000 alright it's about student 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:42.000 success you hire a faculty member 00:07:42.000 --> 00:07:44.000 we need to invest and it be 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.000 successful if hire a staff member 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:47.000 need to work with them to be 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:48.000 successful doesn't always work out 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:50.000 but if that if they know that 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:51.000 that's what you have in mind 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:52.000 for them they'll usually work 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we assess all that whether it's 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:25.000 accreditation or just is it 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:28.000 work force outcomes is it -- 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:30.000 just is my program up to date 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:31.000 that's all very important or 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.000 else you you can have a great 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:34.000 reputation a great program but 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:36.000 over time your program will 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.000 feel out of date and that is 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:39.000 really something you have to focus 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:42.000 on strategic alliances that 00:08:42.000 --> 00:08:44.000 driven making sure and it's 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:45.000 all about relationship building 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:46.000 whether school teaching 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:47.000 business if people don't like 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:48.000 you they're not going to work 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:51.000 with you okay strategic alliances 00:08:51.000 --> 00:08:52.000 this is sort of the thing 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.000 that I think I do pretty well 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:55.000 whether it's with government 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:58.000 agencies schools -- business 00:08:59.000 --> 00:08:60.000 can we do things together that 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:02.000 we both win and it is about 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:04.000 win win -- you know you can 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:05.000 only hit donors up so many 00:09:05.000 --> 00:09:06.000 times before you you know they're 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:07.000 you know they're spending money 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:08.000 on you they want something 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:11.000 out of it and so I'm really 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:12.000 interested in looking for ways 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:16.000 to to grow that that I'll use the 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:17.000 even though you could argue 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:19.000 that the children's museum 00:09:19.000 --> 00:09:20.000 was sort of mission creep for 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.000 the university we needed a 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.000 presence in downtown Tyler and 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:25.000 that was something that was on 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:27.000 the agenda of our president at 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:29.000 that time and he did not want 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:30.000 to spend a bunch of money on 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:31.000 a building that probably wouldn't get 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:33.000 used very much and he didn't want to 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:34.000 so here was a way that it was 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.000 win win their building has two 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:38.000 facilities they had the main exhibits 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:39.000 by the way students worked 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:40.000 there for free as internships 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:41.000 they run the store if they're 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.000 in business they learn how to 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.000 do the sales tax the engineers 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:47.000 build exhibits the artists 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:48.000 come in and paint the place 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:49.000 it was a win win the city owns 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:52.000 the buildings and because they 00:09:52.000 --> 00:09:53.000 would never pass UT's 00:09:53.000 --> 00:09:54.000 system requirements for 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:56.000 buildings that we could own and 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:57.000 it but it was a win win and we 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:58.000 got our presence downtown and 00:09:58.000 --> 00:09:60.000 everybody knows that UT 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.000 Tyler saved the museum and and 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:04.000 it's just a good thing -- good 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:06.000 win win so that fits the sort 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:07.000 of what I call their financial 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.000 capital political capital 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:10.000 you know personal capital you 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:11.000 got all these different types 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:12.000 capital that one was really 00:10:12.000 --> 00:10:14.000 a good will capital thing and 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:16.000 finally the last one is if 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:17.000 you want to grow and expand 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:18.000 you've got to come up with 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:19.000 ways to invest in advancement 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:20.000 sustainability it looks 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:21.000 different everywhere you work 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:23.000 very different in Idaho than it 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:25.000 was in in Tyler very different 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:27.000 sort of world it's different if you're 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:28.000 a regional institution than if you're 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:30.000 the flagship I understand that 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:31.000 and then innovating challenge 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:32.000 followers to be innovative 00:10:32.000 --> 00:10:34.000 creative I'm open to any good 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.000 idea assuming we can knock 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.000 down the barriers to make it 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:39.000 happen -- I like to tell folks 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.000 anyone comes in my office now 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.000 can we do this sure now let's 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:44.000 talk about how we're gonna do it 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:45.000 a lot of times we find out there's 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:47.000 really no way to do it with 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:48.000 the current resources but what 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:49.000 I don't ever want to do is say 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:52.000 you can't do that okay I mean 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:53.000 if it's really crazy I could 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:55.000 probably say that but sponsored 00:10:55.000 --> 00:10:57.000 projects it I think it's 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:58.000 important that you have the word 00:10:58.000 --> 00:10:59.000 sponsored projects on there 00:10:59.000 --> 00:10:61.000 versus sponsored research the 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:02.000 I think it's a different sort 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:04.000 of thing in fact at UT Austin 00:11:04.000 --> 00:11:06.000 they actually have a sponsored 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:07.000 project office and a sponsored research 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.000 project -- research project 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:11.000 office when we went in -- I 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:13.000 was working with Doctor Arlene Horn 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:14.000 who was the VP of research 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:16.000 at that time she knew I had a 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:17.000 history of writing grants and 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:19.000 getting them funded from being at 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:20.000 other places and she said how 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.000 can we grow this thing and I 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.000 said well what are we -- what are we not 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:25.000 tapping right now and first 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:26.000 thing I learned is they were 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:28.000 writing federal grants but 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:30.000 the state of Texas grants are 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.000 larger than federal grants and 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:35.000 so they won't give them to you 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:38.000 in Oregon though I'm sorry -- but 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:39.000 so I said we we need a get tap 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.000 these -- state grants we also 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.000 learned that there's -- school 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:45.000 districts -- and and I am an 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:46.000 educator so I will often come 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:47.000 back to school districts it's 00:11:47.000 --> 00:11:50.000 just my training -- there was 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.000 a -- the Texas comptroller site 00:11:52.000 --> 00:11:54.000 had these ways where school 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:55.000 districts can write for grants 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:58.000 that universities cannot and 00:11:58.000 --> 00:11:59.000 the school districts don't get 00:11:59.000 --> 00:11:60.000 to keep the money they have to 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:03.000 spend it on approved providers 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:05.000 but the universities were not 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:06.000 filing the paperwork to be an 00:12:06.000 --> 00:12:09.000 approved provider so we worked 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.000 to get our university listed 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:13.000 as and for years we were the 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:14.000 only university it was always the 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:16.000 educational service centers 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:17.000 private organizations that 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:19.000 were the providers so the districts 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:20.000 get these things then we would 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:21.000 go out say Hey -- there's 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:22.000 this grant out there that you 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:23.000 can write and the state gives 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:24.000 you money and you have to use one of these 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:26.000 providers we'll write the grant 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.000 for you because you don't 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:29.000 have the infrastructure to 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:30.000 do it especially small rural 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.000 districts right but we're the 00:12:32.000 --> 00:12:34.000 provider that was sort of the 00:12:34.000 --> 00:12:36.000 the the agreement and so that 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:39.000 was very good corporate grants 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.000 some of those sometimes are it 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:44.000 depending on location if you live 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:45.000 in Austin you have access to 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:46.000 different corporations than you 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:48.000 do when you live in Tyler -- 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:49.000 the Dell Foundation is probably 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:51.000 not going to give money to 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:52.000 Tyler they did for UT 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.000 but mainly because Austin asked 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.000 them to I've got -- contracts 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:57.000 I love contracts that's work 00:12:57.000 --> 00:12:59.000 you know for service it's -- 00:12:59.000 --> 00:12:61.000 fairly straightforward usually 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:02.000 attached to some of the other 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:04.000 programs cooperative agreements 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:05.000 I don't know if you have any of those 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:06.000 where you make a cooperative agreement 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.000 with the school district or an 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:09.000 agency to provide a certain 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.000 level of support or training 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:14.000 there gets to take advantage 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:17.000 of it and it's sort of a -- 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:19.000 just that's a coop and then -- 00:13:19.000 --> 00:13:21.000 gifts -- love gifs when I've 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:22.000 done gifts I've been the person 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:25.000 who sets up the gift -- so the 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.000 vice president for advancement 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:28.000 would say we need to get money 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:29.000 for this and we would go meet 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:30.000 with a potential donor then 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.000 the donor would say well what 00:13:32.000 --> 00:13:33.000 what what would you do for 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:35.000 this and he would say let me 00:13:35.000 --> 00:13:36.000 introduce you to Dr. Odell and then 00:13:36.000 --> 00:13:38.000 I would say it I never asked 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:41.000 for the money okay but that's 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:43.000 you know that was advancements 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:44.000 job but I was pretty good at 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.000 being the pitch man except 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:47.000 for nursing I didn't do a good job 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:49.000 there the other things that I 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:50.000 have listed up there is -- you 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.000 have centers and so how do we 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:57.000 and increase there in Texas 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:59.000 if you're a center you must be one 00:13:59.000 --> 00:13:60.000 hundred percent self funded 00:14:00.000 --> 00:14:01.000 there is no state support 00:14:01.000 --> 00:14:02.000 for a center it sounds like 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:03.000 that's pretty much the way 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:05.000 it is here and so -- making 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:06.000 sure that they're viable and 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.000 that when there's a bad time 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:09.000 they've got reserves so that 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.000 they can continue their work 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:12.000 until because funding cycles 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:15.000 are really hard to predict 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.000 and then finally up there like 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:18.000 I said capital there's political 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.000 capital sometimes you do things 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:22.000 to build political goodwill 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.000 with -- your legislators or 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:27.000 your local -- governments -- 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:28.000 financial of course and then 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:29.000 there's the goodwill where 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:30.000 there everyone in the committee 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:31.000 loves you because you're 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:33.000 Western Oregon University and 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:34.000 and you just do so much for the 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:35.000 community and and you need to 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:37.000 highlight that so how do you 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:38.000 go about doing that well you 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:39.000 got to have faculty development 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:40.000 and staff development depending on 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:43.000 how people are classified so I 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:44.000 have some examples of expertise 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:45.000 development first thing I did at 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:47.000 Idaho is I mean at Tyler was I 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:51.000 I want to know what everybody can 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:53.000 do what's their expertise 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:54.000 first thing I learned is 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.000 everybody's vita was out of date and so 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:58.000 we I asked the deans to get me up 00:14:58.000 --> 00:14:61.000 to date vitas so that I could -- -- 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:02.000 really evaluate what we could 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.000 do -- and -- and I -- I looked 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:07.000 for natural conglomerations 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:08.000 of people that could work on 00:15:08.000 --> 00:15:10.000 interdisciplinary projects 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:12.000 alright -- UT Tyler trying 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:14.000 to create a new biology doctorate 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:16.000 or something is not going 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.000 to ever fly but if one in bio 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:21.000 informatics might fly because 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:23.000 it's in those interdisciplinary 00:15:23.000 --> 00:15:25.000 sections where the big guys 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:26.000 haven't all had their degrees 00:15:26.000 --> 00:15:27.000 approved yet by the higher 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:29.000 education coordinating board 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:30.000 because you know the if you 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:32.000 if you I don't know how it works in Oregon but if 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:33.000 you submit something do the 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:34.000 others get to say you can't 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:36.000 do that -- yeah okay 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:37.000 so you want to try to put up 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:40.000 something -- that that is going to 00:15:40.000 --> 00:15:41.000 serve the needs of your community 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:42.000 but at the same time is not gonna 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.000 make your colleagues across 00:15:44.000 --> 00:15:47.000 the state upset with you my 00:15:47.000 --> 00:15:48.000 former protege he's now at 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:51.000 DARPA and -- he's on his second 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:54.000 tour and that all just occurred 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:55.000 because I took him to the army 00:15:55.000 --> 00:15:57.000 research lab and he -- 00:15:57.000 --> 00:15:58.000 was doing some interesting work and 00:15:58.000 --> 00:15:59.000 I just talked him up and they 00:15:59.000 --> 00:15:62.000 said Hey -- you think you'd 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:03.000 ever want to do a rotation job 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:05.000 and he's doing it and he's -- 00:16:05.000 --> 00:16:06.000 you know sitting over a sixty million 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:09.000 dollar portfolio -- on food 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.000 security and he's a biologist 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:13.000 to Texas A and M 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:14.000 to get someone like that but 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:16.000 not from a UT Tyler and that 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:17.000 also makes our institution 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:19.000 look better you know so there are 00:16:19.000 --> 00:16:21.000 way to do that I've done tours 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:24.000 at NASA I think that you could do 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:26.000 one at NSF I mean you gotta be 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:27.000 willing to go away for two years but 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:31.000 things I developed a department 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:32.000 of defense CRADA's a 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:33.000 system which is a cooperative 00:16:33.000 --> 00:16:35.000 agreement to support the army 00:16:35.000 --> 00:16:37.000 it came out and what it was 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:40.000 is that the Army wants 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:41.000 and you could probably do 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:44.000 this by the way -- they want 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.000 a place for their researchers 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.000 to do their sabbaticals and 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:50.000 of course UT Austin and the 00:16:50.000 --> 00:16:51.000 other big schools immediately said 00:16:51.000 --> 00:16:52.000 how much are you going to pay 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:56.000 us for that and I'm like well the 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.000 Army's paying their salary 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:59.000 right oh I think we can find 00:16:59.000 --> 00:16:61.000 housing here for them to come 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:03.000 do work with our biologist 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:05.000 and the idea there was is that 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:06.000 they would come in and we've 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:08.000 had one that spent his you know 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:11.000 year on campus -- got to 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:13.000 teach class got to you know 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:14.000 and the idea there was that 00:17:14.000 --> 00:17:16.000 the -- and then we had another 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:18.000 biology faculty member go work 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:19.000 in the Army lab in the summer 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:21.000 on their research he got paid 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:23.000 directly by the Army didn't run 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:24.000 through the university but 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:26.000 but what we did is we did a 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:28.000 start to develop the expertise 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:29.000 that our faculty needed if 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.000 they wanted to go work in those 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:33.000 sort of agencies and get those 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:35.000 sort of dollars okay -- we have 00:17:35.000 --> 00:17:36.000 another guy wasn't involved in 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.000 this but just an example -- based 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.000 on that -- when I changed back 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:43.000 to being a faculty member -- we 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:45.000 started -- we brought in a -- 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:48.000 a donor wanted to do a memory 00:17:50.000 --> 00:17:52.000 a position bought a building 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:53.000 they have like it's called the 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.000 Mark they do that and -- and 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.000 so they brought in someone and 00:17:58.000 --> 00:17:59.000 they're staying and it's just 00:17:59.000 --> 00:17:61.000 been a win win for everybody 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:02.000 and he's added value to our 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:03.000 psychology department that we 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:04.000 never would have been able to 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:07.000 afford networking I think if 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:08.000 you're going to have a a robust 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:10.000 grant system and I'm mainly talk 00:18:10.000 --> 00:18:11.000 about sponsored research right 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:13.000 now is that you can't sit in your 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:14.000 office and get funded or write 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.000 grants you need to meet people 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:18.000 you need to that program officer 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:20.000 needs to know you're alive 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:21.000 and that you have something 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:22.000 now there are some you do need 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:23.000 to have some publications in 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:24.000 those areas if you don't we can 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:27.000 work on building that capacity 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:29.000 program office visits my office 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.000 day would -- take delegation 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:34.000 as a faculty we'd walk around 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:36.000 to the different agencies and 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.000 just learned how to talk to the 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:41.000 agency folks as well as talking 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:45.000 to our -- delegation now UT's 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:46.000 system has an office right 00:18:46.000 --> 00:18:48.000 there on Pennsylvania Avenue 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:49.000 so we had extra support that 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:50.000 I don't know if it's what 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:53.000 your DC presence is but -- 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:54.000 we're just there to educate 00:18:54.000 --> 00:18:55.000 never asked for anything 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:56.000 but every once in awhile you 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:57.000 know an opportunity would 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:58.000 come our way as a result so 00:18:58.000 --> 00:18:60.000 those are important I did 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:01.000 federal relations our government 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:02.000 our state government was done 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:03.000 by a different person but 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:04.000 I did assist I helped get 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:06.000 some laws passed for charter 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:09.000 schools they the way they 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:10.000 rate we were always failing 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:12.000 the funding rules because 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:15.000 universities are not do not 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:16.000 expend money the way K-12 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.000 to get a law written and it wasn't just 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:19.000 us -- UT Austin has thirteen 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:21.000 charter schools UT Permian Basin 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:22.000 has one but all the state 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:23.000 charter schools got together 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:25.000 the university lab schools 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:26.000 basically got together and said 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:27.000 we need to rewrite this law so 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:29.000 that we don't get an F 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:30.000 on our financial rating every 00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:31.000 year which we were getting 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:34.000 not taken into account when 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:37.000 they set up the rules and so 00:19:37.000 --> 00:19:39.000 that was a big win because it 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:40.000 just made life a lot easier 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:41.000 to not have an F 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:42.000 in the newspaper 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:44.000 K-12 relations regardless 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:45.000 of what field you're in are very 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:47.000 important students come to this 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:48.000 university a lot of times because 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:50.000 they know someone here so if 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:52.000 you're a chemist getting out to 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:53.000 the school every once in awhile 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:54.000 is a really good thing to do 00:19:57.000 --> 00:19:59.000 have a history of education 00:19:59.000 --> 00:19:60.000 teachers talk about where they 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:01.000 went to school if they had a 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:03.000 great experience their kids might 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:04.000 come to school here and so that's 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:08.000 important -- -- when I was in 00:20:08.000 --> 00:20:09.000 Idaho we worked with the Nez Perce 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:11.000 and the Coeur d'Alene tribes which were 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:12.000 right there north and south 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:14.000 of Moscow -- Texas -- it's 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:16.000 not really -- a population that 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:19.000 exists and so -- but there are 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:22.000 a large congressional grant to 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:24.000 do the Lewis and Clark trail 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:26.000 back during the bicentennial 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:28.000 so we did that with us -- it 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.000 was University of Montana and then 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:31.000 then we sort of retraced the 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:33.000 steps and it was what was going 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:34.000 on when Lewis and Clark came 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:35.000 there take pictures what 00:20:35.000 --> 00:20:38.000 does it look like now and -- 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:39.000 there was an education component 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:41.000 but the -- -- our sociology 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:43.000 department -- and anthropology 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.000 departments helped record all 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:47.000 of the Nez Perce language it's 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:48.000 now on a website that you can 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:50.000 get to which could be lost 00:20:50.000 --> 00:20:51.000 otherwise so that was really 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:53.000 cool and you just never know 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:54.000 what's out there and what's 00:20:54.000 --> 00:20:57.000 what's interest to -- funders 00:20:57.000 --> 00:20:58.000 corporate relations and 00:20:58.000 --> 00:20:59.000 course in Texas it's mostly 00:20:59.000 --> 00:20:61.000 petrochemical sort of things 00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:04.000 Shell and Exxon and Chevron have 00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:05.000 been very generous to STEM 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:06.000 programming in the state of 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:08.000 Texas economic development 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:09.000 working with your local 00:21:09.000 --> 00:21:10.000 economic development council 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:12.000 as I'm sure you guys do that 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.000 but that's a big thing and 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:15.000 having a presence at those 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:17.000 events and rotary believe 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:18.000 it or not makes a difference 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:20.000 once again leveraging expertise 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:22.000 expertise here my guess is 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:23.000 Oregon State or the University 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:25.000 of Oregon has it and I'm sure 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:27.000 there are potential project 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:30.000 PIs that would love for you 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:31.000 guys to write the grant for 00:21:31.000 --> 00:21:32.000 them that they get to list 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:34.000 themselves as first and then 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:36.000 we would get a subcontract 00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:37.000 able to get a grant without 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:39.000 them does that make sense 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:40.000 that's just reality seed 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:42.000 grants so one of the programs 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:43.000 I initiated is I took the 00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:44.000 internal grants you may or may 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:46.000 not like this and there was 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:48.000 a chance to leverage those to 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:50.000 make them twice as much through 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:51.000 the higher education courting 00:21:51.000 --> 00:21:52.000 board if we took all our internal 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:54.000 grants to faculty and they had 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:56.000 to end up writing a proposal 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:59.000 to an agency for funding so 00:21:59.000 --> 00:21:60.000 they -- they ended up being 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:02.000 anywhere from five to ten 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:03.000 thousand dollars on average 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:04.000 every once in awhile we'd give a big one 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:06.000 for interdisciplinary sort of 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.000 thing and -- but that meant 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:10.000 we went from you know maybe 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:11.000 twenty thirty thousand dollars 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:13.000 a year to give the faculty to 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:16.000 hundred eighty thousand dollars 00:22:16.000 --> 00:22:18.000 to give away to faculty to 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:20.000 work on research and so time 00:22:20.000 --> 00:22:21.000 management's another area we try 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:22.000 to work with faculty especially 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:24.000 new faculty you've left your 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:26.000 doctoral program -- and -- 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:27.000 and you were pretty focused 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:29.000 on one thing or if you're like 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:32.000 me you were a slave to your professor 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:33.000 and you know mowed her lawn every 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:35.000 Saturday and things like that 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:37.000 and -- that's a true story by the 00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:40.000 way -- and -- -- and I did not 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:43.000 get paid -- and -- 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:46.000 but -- helping them understand 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:47.000 that now you have committees 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:49.000 now you have -- you gotta get 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:51.000 your publications take six 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:53.000 months to a year minimum to get 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:54.000 through sometimes two years so 00:22:54.000 --> 00:22:56.000 you've got to plan that out and 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:58.000 providing faculty a strategy 00:22:58.000 --> 00:22:59.000 for doing that you need to have 00:22:59.000 --> 00:22:60.000 about three in the hopper all 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:01.000 the time it depends on your 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:03.000 requirements but but you understand 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:04.000 what I'm saying same with grants 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:05.000 you need to be working on 00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:07.000 the next cycle okay and then 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:08.000 we did some things which may 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:09.000 or may not be possible here 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:10.000 we did cluster hires to build 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:12.000 expertise or we would bring 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:14.000 in a group of known faculty from 00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:16.000 other places and then the last 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:17.000 one which is hard and lot of 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:18.000 people have trouble with at 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.000 some point you have to sunset 00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:21.000 things that you've done a 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:22.000 long time if they're just not 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:24.000 viable the times have changed 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:25.000 or you have to rebrand or you're 00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:27.000 gonna do something and those are hard 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:29.000 conversations to have but you 00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:30.000 know you can only invest so 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:31.000 long if the funding's just never 00:23:31.000 --> 00:23:32.000 going to be there you do have 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:34.000 to have that discussion and 00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:36.000 it's not a fun discussion but 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:38.000 it is something you have to do this was just 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:39.000 to show it ended up being third they 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:41.000 revised this so when I got to 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:42.000 UT Tyler it looked really 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:44.000 impressive but you have to understand 00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:46.000 we started with no dollars okay 00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:47.000 so increases percentage but 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:49.000 it it looked really good on 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:52.000 my evaluation okay so -- this 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.000 was -- we were also listed 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:55.000 as the eighth fastest growing 00:23:55.000 --> 00:23:56.000 or fourteen I can't remember 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.000 fastest growing university 00:23:58.000 --> 00:23:59.000 in the country but this was the 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:03.000 of higher education and you'll 00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.000 see that for the greatest 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.000 increase in research and we 00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:09.000 were fourth in federal dollars 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:10.000 overall so that's projects 00:24:10.000 --> 00:24:12.000 that's just any federal money 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:13.000 and then over there is basic 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:14.000 research and we we increased 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.000 greatly and that trend has 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:18.000 continued for awhile and it was 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:20.000 just making it a focus and -- 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:23.000 supporting faculty and and -- 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:27.000 and a lot of work was done by 00:24:27.000 --> 00:24:28.000 the deans but the deans you know had 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:29.000 to make sure they had the kind 00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:30.000 of teaching loads that would 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.000 work for -- to support their 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:35.000 research as they they continued 00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:37.000 so anyway this is just an example 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:38.000 there a little dated because I 00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.000 don't have access to that hard 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.000 drive anymore but on the left 00:24:41.000 --> 00:24:43.000 we tracked grants by college and 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:47.000 of education and psychology it was -- 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.000 very productive at that time 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:50.000 and actually still to this day 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:51.000 there's quite a bit of money 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:52.000 in education it sounds like 00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:53.000 that's still the case here too 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:55.000 this chart shows you sort of 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:56.000 how many new awards and then 00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:58.000 the carryover because grants 00:24:58.000 --> 00:24:59.000 carryover unless it's just 00:24:59.000 --> 00:24:61.000 a one year grant and so you 00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:02.000 can see we were -- cranking 00:25:02.000 --> 00:25:03.000 out there pretty good for a 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:05.000 while -- it's gone back down 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:08.000 but -- that's another story 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:11.000 anyway this is one center this 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:12.000 was the ingenuity center -- 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.000 and then you know it says awards 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.000 and revenue the grants were 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:18.000 not the biggest revenue source 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:19.000 for the ingenuity center it 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:22.000 was fee for service training 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:23.000 we did project based learning 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:24.000 workshops all over the state we 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:26.000 hosted conferences -- we 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:28.000 have a formula for conferences 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:29.000 so we always if you get at 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:31.000 least 250 300 people we'd make about twenty 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:32.000 five thirty thousand dollars 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:34.000 on everyone -- don't know the 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.000 landscape in Oregon to know 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:37.000 if that would work here -- -- 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:39.000 we've applied for grants -- 00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:40.000 you when you mentioned Spencer 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:41.000 this morning -- they have a 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:43.000 conference grant and if you 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:45.000 could create a strand in some 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.000 thousand dollars to run a 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:49.000 conference yeah but you can 00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:52.000 see the but the revenue that 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:53.000 you can develop revenue other 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:56.000 areas than just grants so 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:57.000 now switching gears talk more 00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:58.000 about graduate programs I have 00:25:58.000 --> 00:25:60.000 no experience as a graduate dean 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:02.000 okay that's just the way 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.000 it is -- but I have been a 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.000 department chair and -- and and 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:07.000 and actually it's a division 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:09.000 chair at Idaho so I was over 00:26:09.000 --> 00:26:10.000 at leadership special ed and 00:26:10.000 --> 00:26:11.000 and curriculum instruction 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:12.000 which also include all the 00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:14.000 undergraduate at Tyler I was 00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:15.000 director of the school of 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.000 education when I took it over 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:18.000 there were three units I had to 00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:19.000 put them all into one it was 00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:21.000 early childhood it was called 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:22.000 ECRSEI big long name early 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.000 childhood special ed reading 00:26:25.000 --> 00:26:28.000 stood for and then -- -- 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:29.000 curriculum instruction and then 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.000 teacher certification and we 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:33.000 put that all together in one 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.000 unit I was tapped to do that 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:39.000 to pick someone other than one 00:26:39.000 --> 00:26:40.000 of the three current chairs 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:41.000 to bring those three units 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.000 together -- and so he let me 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:46.000 take the heat for two years 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:47.000 but that was okay but at the 00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:48.000 University of Idaho we also 00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.000 had outreach centers I see you've 00:26:50.000 --> 00:26:51.000 opened one up in Salem there's 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:54.000 especially in education in those 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:55.000 areas engineering also had a 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.000 lot of extension ag. of course 00:26:57.000 --> 00:26:58.000 is all over the state of Idaho 00:26:58.000 --> 00:26:60.000 but that's at Corvallis here 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:03.000 we had both the M.S. and the M.Ed. 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:04.000 we had -- had specialist 00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:06.000 degrees we had both the Ed.D 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.000 which truly was a practitioner 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:09.000 degree and the PhD which was a 00:27:09.000 --> 00:27:11.000 research degree but then the 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:12.000 recruitment strategy was I 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:13.000 always made sure if there isn't 00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:14.000 that leadership thing going on in 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:16.000 the state that I had a -- 00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:17.000 a leadership faculty member at 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:19.000 a booth or at the conference 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:21.000 doing a presentation to talk 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:22.000 about whatever they're supposed 00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:23.000 talk about the last ten minutes 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:25.000 had to be a commercial for the 00:27:25.000 --> 00:27:27.000 University of Idaho especially 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:28.000 in Boise for Boise State was 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:30.000 you had to do it okay and then 00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:31.000 I did the what I call the long 00:27:31.000 --> 00:27:33.000 drive I visited almost every 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:34.000 school district in the state 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.000 of Idaho took two years to 00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:38.000 meet with every superintendent 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:40.000 say what can we do for you the 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:41.000 other thing I did is we took 00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:43.000 the I said how many people have 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:44.000 unfinished master's degrees 00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.000 from us and said okay give me 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.000 those and when I went if they were 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:49.000 working there I said Hey we 00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:52.000 want you to finish and we we 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:53.000 got about twenty percent of 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:55.000 them to come back and finish -- and 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.000 so -- a lot of times they just 00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.000 something happened in their life they 00:27:59.000 --> 00:27:60.000 didn't have the money or 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:01.000 whatever and they just kind 00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:02.000 of gave up but just being 00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.000 reminded to finish a lot of 00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:07.000 you're so close so close so 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.000 really looked at non-completers 00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:10.000 we had a summer 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:11.000 discount -- if you can do 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:12.000 things like that here actually 00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:13.000 our big recruitment area back 00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:16.000 then was the northeast because 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:17.000 our out of state tuition was 00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:19.000 cheaper than in state tuition 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:21.000 in Pennsylvania and places 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:24.000 like that and so come out west 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.000 go hiking experience really 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.000 really cold weather -- you 00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:29.000 know something -- and -- but it 00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:31.000 believe it or not it actually 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:33.000 worked okay so then when I got 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:34.000 into Texas I did not drive 00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.000 to all the school districts but 00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:37.000 I've been to meetings but those 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.000 that we'd to have some sort of 00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:40.000 agreement with and that was 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:41.000 like four years ago I haven't 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:42.000 updated it because I have to 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.000 go now to go to Google maps 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:45.000 and put in all the different 00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.000 schools and I just haven't had time but 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.000 we were statewide now when 00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:51.000 we talk to the legislature we 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:52.000 only I can't move sorry we 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.000 can only work in that little 00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:55.000 right hand triangle that's kind of 00:28:55.000 --> 00:28:57.000 empty that's where we are one 00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:58.000 of our strategies was -- with 00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:60.000 the advent of online was we 00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.000 want to be statewide and it's 00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:05.000 us okay and we have M.Ed.s 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.000 in education and and to 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.000 one of the things -- we have small 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:09.000 faculty much like -- you guys 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:11.000 do -- we went through all our 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:12.000 programs we have a reading and 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:14.000 we have special ed and we said 00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:15.000 how many common courses can 00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:17.000 we use amongst us so we're not 00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.000 stretched so thin and -- there 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:20.000 was a lot of give and take on 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:22.000 that but we finally came to so 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:24.000 that a good twelve to fifteen 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.000 credit hours were common 00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:30.000 across the M.Ed.s which let 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:32.000 us leverage but that also meant 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.000 we all had to do some internal 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.000 PLC type work that -- that -- 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.000 I needed to know some things 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:39.000 about special ed that I don't 00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:40.000 know or they needed to know 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.000 stuff about something I didn't 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:43.000 know and that worked out pretty 00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:44.000 well we're very collaborative 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.000 team -- within the curriculum 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:48.000 instruction there's also a STEM 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.000 focus area if you choose -- 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:51.000 it just can just be regular 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.000 and I and then we've added an 00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:54.000 instructional coaching in the 00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:55.000 last couple years the reason we 00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:56.000 have is the districts are just 00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.000 wanting it and it's our biggest 00:29:59.000 --> 00:29:61.000 program now it everybody wants 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:02.000 to be instructional coach 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.000 don't have an MA T. 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:08.000 but you can get -- an M.Ed. 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.000 but eighteen hours is in 00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:13.000 education so they can teach 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:15.000 dual credit classes and that's 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.000 been huge in our biology 00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:18.000 department in our history 00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.000 department have really 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.000 bought into that and fixed it 00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:22.000 so that teachers could get 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:24.000 access to content graduate 00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:26.000 level content courses that were 00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:28.000 relevant -- -- math not so much 00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:31.000 but still a work in progress reading 00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:32.000 is a new thing in Texas -- 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.000 they're having all sorts of new 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:36.000 reading specialists and we're 00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.000 it's approved it's going out the 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.000 door just this last week -- our 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.000 Ed.D in school improvement was 00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:45.000 approved and it is focused on 00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:47.000 school improvements we work 00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:48.000 about three of us in the department 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:50.000 do we are in schools constantly 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:51.000 helping them go from F 00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:54.000 ratings to C's -- you can get a 00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.000 D but it just buys you a year and 00:30:58.000 --> 00:30:59.000 way they treat their schools 00:30:59.000 --> 00:30:61.000 that are failing so do a lot of 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:02.000 work there yeah we actually 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.000 partnered to take over -- a 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:06.000 district north of us I'm peripherally 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:07.000 on that one I work with 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:09.000 a different district but -- 00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:10.000 where we kind of run the school 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.000 district -- and the state has 00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.000 money to provide I mean it's 00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:15.000 still their employees still 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:16.000 everything but the decisions 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:18.000 are made with university 00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:20.000 faculty sitting at the table -- 00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:22.000 ways now we're doing this and 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:23.000 so that's worked out really 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:25.000 well recruitment strategy at Idaho 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:26.000 social media didn't really 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.000 exist yet so that's a long 00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.000 time ago but -- we have a big 00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:32.000 social media presence -- making 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:33.000 sure if any faculty goes to a 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:35.000 conference that they somehow 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:36.000 get stuff out to whether 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.000 it's undergrads or grads 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:39.000 a recruitment piece our new 00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:41.000 president even -- extended that 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:42.000 if you -- get an international 00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:43.000 trip that has any sponsorship 00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:44.000 from the university you have 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:46.000 to go visit somewhere to try 00:31:46.000 --> 00:31:47.000 to recruit an international 00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:48.000 student -- not sure how it's 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.000 worked out but -- I thought it 00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.000 was interesting and then once 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.000 again I did the long drive but 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.000 mainly in East Texas I did not 00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:56.000 drive all over the state of 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:58.000 Texas it would take too long 00:31:58.000 --> 00:31:60.000 that was very fruitful we got 00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.000 a lot of programs out in the 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:03.000 schools cohort discount we 00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:05.000 did a cohort discount if your 00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:06.000 school district commits to ten 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.000 teachers than they only pay X. 00:32:08.000 --> 00:32:09.000 I don't know if you have that 00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:10.000 flexibility or not here 00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.000 we made sure especially in 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.000 certain fields if you leave as 00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.000 a graduate of our undergraduate 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:19.000 program applied to be grad 00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:21.000 won't charge you the -- the 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.000 the fee -- the processing fees 00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:25.000 and all that stuff that was very 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:27.000 helpful -- because we really 00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:28.000 want you back and you could 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:29.000 even say you've already paid 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:30.000 us enough money you don't need 00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.000 to pay that again so -- 00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:34.000 you can spin it however you need to and 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.000 been doing is something called 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:38.000 score recognition -- so we have 00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:39.000 these little engineering academies 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:40.000 where the engineers kind of 00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:43.000 adopt school and then -- it 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:44.000 there's really not much to it 00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.000 they give them a tour the engineering 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:49.000 building let them play with the 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:51.000 drones and things like that 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:52.000 or they go to nursing and play 00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:53.000 with the simulation lab we 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.000 have that's got I heard you 00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:56.000 have one from the student it 00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:58.000 it's got the I don't wanna call them 00:32:58.000 --> 00:32:61.000 dummies but those fake people 00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:02.000 that they practice medicine 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.000 on in them and so they do all 00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:05.000 that and the kids get that the 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:07.000 idea there is you just say hey come 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:09.000 here so -- I want to go back 00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:10.000 to this talk about graduate 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:11.000 programs a little bit so the two 00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.000 blue arrows show the time I was 00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:14.000 the director of the school of 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:16.000 education okay and you'll see 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.000 this is our master's in -- CNI 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.000 you can see when I was asked 00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.000 to take the lead -- we had 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:25.000 some problems with enrollment 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.000 see that there dropped and 00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:31.000 so this was a lumber program 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.000 state of our university and 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:33.000 others were putting all their 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.000 programs online I could not get 00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:36.000 faculty to go online at that 00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:38.000 time but I was able to get them 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.000 to go hybrid and you'll see 00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.000 there was an increase well as 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:43.000 they got better and they actually 00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:44.000 have really good supports at the 00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:46.000 university with IT and 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:47.000 and Canvas my -- the person 00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.000 that came after me -- was able to 00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:50.000 convince the faculty let's 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:52.000 go totally online and that's 00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.000 where we are today and the ed 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.000 leadership numbers are even 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.000 more amazing okay and so there are 00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:60.000 platforms that can make that 00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.000 really good authentic learning 00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:03.000 I know some people are not sure 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:05.000 about that but but if the goal 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.000 is to increase your your foot 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:11.000 print that is the reality of 00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:15.000 today and and you can be the 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.000 we're gonna hold the line for 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:20.000 tell is when I first got to -- 00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.000 in the office of of -- research 00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.000 the biologists there were two camps 00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:25.000 in the biology department those 00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:26.000 that wanted to do things like 00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.000 bioinformatics and and genetic 00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:29.000 sequencing and they wanted 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:31.000 all this expensive equipment 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:32.000 and then there were the turtle 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.000 guys and I like the turtle guys 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:35.000 don't get me wrong but they 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:36.000 said we could be the last 00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:39.000 bastion of you know traditional 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:41.000 ecology and so I said but there's 00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.000 no money and they never went 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:44.000 online because that wouldn't be 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:45.000 appropriate for the work they 00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:47.000 but but in the end I was able 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:49.000 to convince them that we cannot 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.000 be the last bastion of turtles 00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:55.000 okay and -- and so -- we still 00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:56.000 study turtles don't get me wrong okay 00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:59.000 but but you get the idea so it 00:34:59.000 --> 00:34:62.000 you also have to be relevant to 00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.000 the world as it exists teachers 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.000 are busy law enforcement people 00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.000 are busy nurses are busy I 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:09.000 want to be able to access these 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.000 programs we have the largest 00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:12.000 online nursing programs I 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:16.000 think some of the largest in the country 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:17.000 that includes nurse 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:18.000 practitioner which is a 00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:20.000 different nursing so throw that 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.000 out there for you okay so there 00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:23.000 rest of these slides are things you're 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:24.000 gonna see I'm just going to 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:25.000 kind of make some comments 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:26.000 based on what I read if I'm 00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:27.000 out in left field then you 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.000 can say he's crazy and move on 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.000 this is your mission this is 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:33.000 your vision so I I read through 00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.000 your strategic plan all right 00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:37.000 go ahead all right student 00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:38.000 success and I know a lot of this stuff is 00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:39.000 really targeted to undergraduates 00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:44.000 but I think there are -- 00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:45.000 it's a line in some ways to 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:49.000 graduate education so I'm gonna 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.000 start with 2.1 provide 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:51.000 intentional and effective paths to 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:52.000 graduate one of the things 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.000 that drives students crazy 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:55.000 and I've learned this as a chair when 00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.000 you get admitted I know I can 00:35:57.000 --> 00:35:58.000 finish and I can see that I 00:35:58.000 --> 00:35:60.000 can finish and so and I don't 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.000 at -- at Idaho too -- we 00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:05.000 offered courses on a rotational 00:36:05.000 --> 00:36:06.000 basis they knew that they were 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:07.000 always gonna be ordered on an 00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.000 on -- that day or that time 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:11.000 that semester so they can plan 00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:12.000 their life out through the 00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:13.000 completion of the degree it's 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:14.000 amazing the number of places 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.000 that don't do that and that 00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:17.000 just causes upset students 00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.000 and there as a chair that's not 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.000 fun when they come yell at me and -- 00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:26.000 and so so if we you know I I 00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:27.000 always encourage faculty and 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:29.000 and staff to what what would 00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.000 actually make it easier on 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:32.000 the student not the course work 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:34.000 easier we want high quality 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:35.000 rigorous coursework but we 00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:36.000 also want students to be able 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.000 to finish okay and once again 00:36:39.000 --> 00:36:41.000 improve access if your numbers 00:36:41.000 --> 00:36:42.000 are lagging and and we're 00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:44.000 just not going to do things 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.000 online then your numbers are 00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:46.000 gonna lag and you just need to 00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:48.000 understand that and if that's 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:49.000 what the university wants 00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:50.000 that's fine but understand 00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:51.000 growth is gonna be very 00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:53.000 difficult in an environment 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.000 when they can get it elsewhere 00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.000 and -- -- and at the same 00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:59.000 costs are cheaper so you just need to be 00:36:59.000 --> 00:36:61.000 aware continuing this 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:03.000 user friendly catalog I 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:05.000 played with your guys catalog 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:06.000 I -- I actually had kind of 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:07.000 a hard time finding stuff 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:10.000 for graduates -- and so if and 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:11.000 and I'm I'm fairly old so I 00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:13.000 understand I might not be as up 00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.000 to date on all this technology 00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:16.000 stuff as I used to be but if 00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:17.000 I'm having trouble finding 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:18.000 something I'm guessing students 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:19.000 are having trouble finding 00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:22.000 stuff and so I don't know -- I 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:23.000 just I just think of the things 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:25.000 I would focus on is we really 00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:26.000 need to make sure there are 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:27.000 no barriers that we create 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.000 ourselves to keep students 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.000 from accessing the information 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.000 they need okay make sure that 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:34.000 all our programs are culturally 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:35.000 responsive that seems to be pretty 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:36.000 evident from everything I've 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:37.000 seen today that that is a big 00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.000 commitment here and -- 00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:41.000 I support that -- sounds like 00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:43.000 you're gonna have an innovation 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.000 area here soon so -- curriculum 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:46.000 innovation and account -- if 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:47.000 but you gotta have the accountability 00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:49.000 piece too so if you're gonna 00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:50.000 have a program you can't have 00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.000 one course in that program that 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:53.000 you know makes people not wanna 00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:54.000 finish that program so you know 00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:56.000 those are discussions faculty 00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:58.000 need to have primarily and then 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:01.000 work on making sure that we 00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:03.000 have -- certain expectations 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.000 we all adhere to academic 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:06.000 excellence oh by the way 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:09.000 impact on so just we won't go 00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:11.000 there but I am one of these folks you 00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:12.000 can't have two hundred people 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.000 in an online class that just does 00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:15.000 not work the quality is not 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:18.000 there -- and -- if you have 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:22.000 that sorry -- but -- making 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:23.000 sure that the student gets the 00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:24.000 kind of experience -- but 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:25.000 but there also -- there has to 00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.000 be balanced the course has to 00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.000 make meet its -- targets for 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:34.000 reality okay and so there are 00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.000 ways to deal with that I do 00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.000 like this idea of of your 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:39.000 undergraduates I understand 00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:40.000 have a student research sort 00:38:40.000 --> 00:38:43.000 of symposium well that needs to be 00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.000 expanded to include faculty and 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:47.000 grad students and and the staff 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.000 at the research institute that 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:51.000 should be a couple times a year 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.000 big time university endeavor 00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:55.000 invite people from outside we 00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.000 do one in Tyler now that we 00:38:57.000 --> 00:38:59.000 did it internally and then the 00:38:59.000 --> 00:38:61.000 new administration expanded 00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:02.000 that to include two privates 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:04.000 that are near us an HBCU 00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:05.000 the community college and they all 00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:07.000 come over and -- it's turned 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.000 into a big deal -- so I think 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.000 those are things you could do 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:13.000 I'm gonna focus on 4.4 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:15.000 interdisciplinary is now 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:16.000 the new thing we've got to get 00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:19.000 out of our silos that's not 00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:20.000 the real world anymore and so 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.000 we'll keep going but this was 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.000 all designed to say I actually 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:26.000 read this okay -- other things 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:28.000 another one that goes back 00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:29.000 to the interdisciplinary 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:30.000 what makes it unique what 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.000 is it you are you just resting on 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:33.000 your laurels because you've 00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:34.000 been known for X. 00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:35.000 for fifty years or a hundred 00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.000 years or 200 years or are 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.000 you responsive and building 00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:43.000 graduate programs that actually 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:48.000 can get into and two that other 00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:50.000 folks are going to want to 00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:51.000 enroll in in Portland and 00:39:51.000 --> 00:39:53.000 other places and this is just 00:39:53.000 --> 00:39:54.000 that idea that -- this is a 00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.000 picture -- but these are one 00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.000 of these research symposiums 00:39:58.000 --> 00:39:59.000 but everyone should 00:39:59.000 --> 00:39:60.000 be there everyone needs to know 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.000 what kind of research you do 00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:02.000 find someone else that's doing 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:03.000 something similar to you maybe 00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:05.000 in a different college you have 00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:07.000 to talk to them and so and if 00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.000 they let you have a cocktail 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:10.000 hour at the same time I find 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.000 attendance is much higher but 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:13.000 I don't know what the rules 00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.000 are and so anyway all right 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:16.000 you guys are members of the 00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:17.000 space grant consortium you have 00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.000 one kid I think that has a I 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:20.000 looked it up on Oregon State's 00:40:20.000 --> 00:40:22.000 website that has a scholarship 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:23.000 I think there are ways to 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:24.000 leverage things your members 00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:26.000 know you're members -- they give 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.000 away education grants -- college 00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:29.000 of education people may not even 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:32.000 know that and -- and so there 00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:35.000 are they're small but still get 00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:36.000 the foot in the door at NASA 00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.000 community engagement wear your 00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:39.000 Western Oregon stuff all the 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.000 time I know that sounds cheesy 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.000 but it's true if you came to UT 00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:45.000 Tyler I wear an orange shirt 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:46.000 most of the time now it's burnt 00:40:46.000 --> 00:40:48.000 orange it's not like Tennessee 00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:51.000 orange it's okay and and but 00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.000 and you'll see most of our faculty 00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.000 even when they're dressed the 00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:56.000 they all have if they're wearing 00:40:56.000 --> 00:40:58.000 a suit they're gonna have the 00:40:58.000 --> 00:40:60.000 burnt orange tie with the lapel 00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:01.000 pin that says UT 00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:02.000 Tyler this one's a NASA one 00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:03.000 because I thought it was 00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:04.000 weird to wear a UT Tyler thing 00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.000 here -- and so -- but the 00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.000 idea there is that you you 00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:10.000 are a walking billboard for 00:41:10.000 --> 00:41:11.000 your university every time you go 00:41:11.000 --> 00:41:14.000 to a school and even as nice 00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:15.000 to wear in jeans are great 00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:17.000 but even though you need they 00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:18.000 need to know where you're from 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:19.000 not just a name badge hanging 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:20.000 off your thing because you could be a 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.000 sub or anybody you know so I 00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.000 just throw that out there if 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:26.000 you're conscious about it people 00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:27.000 do notice it's like they see 00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.000 it everywhere alright PD I don't 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:31.000 know what your PD 00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:32.000 offerings for faculty look 00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:34.000 like if it's driven by what 00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:35.000 faculty say they need or if 00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:37.000 it's driven there's always 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.000 compliant stuff you got to 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:41.000 do okay that's off the table 00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.000 that's the law right but beyond 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:44.000 that are you getting the kind 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:47.000 of professional development 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:49.000 so that you can -- develop 00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:50.000 both good graduate courses 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.000 good undergraduate courses 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:53.000 are you up to date on the most 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.000 recent research outside of 00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:56.000 your little narrow area of 00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:58.000 research that's not always easy 00:41:58.000 --> 00:41:61.000 to do -- and and so there are 00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.000 ways to do that to and I think 00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:06.000 don't know what kind of funding 00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.000 there is but -- that would be 00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:09.000 something to look at but I do know 00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:10.000 that the more prepared 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:11.000 faculty are just like school 00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.000 teachers invest the better 00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:14.000 they can offer programs to 00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:16.000 students and students will get 00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:19.000 it okay let's see professional 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:20.000 competencies I think it's back to that 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.000 expert list and making sure 00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:25.000 that you go through town and 00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.000 you remove all signs that say 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.000 Oregon State University of 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.000 Oregon and replace them with 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.000 okay I'm kidding told they're 00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:34.000 bad jokes accountability from 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.000 the research perspective you 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:37.000 know having systems in place 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:38.000 that are gonna look at your IRB 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:42.000 looking at your -- research 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:43.000 misconduct compliance we've 00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.000 had conversations all day about 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.000 this and -- and do it in a 00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:50.000 way that is not -- people 00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:51.000 hammering you all the time 00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.000 about it but understand that 00:42:53.000 --> 00:42:54.000 reports have to be turned in 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.000 on time et cetera but providing 00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.000 the training to do that -- I 00:42:59.000 --> 00:42:60.000 will I will tell the story of 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:01.000 our biology department they 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:03.000 never could get their reports 00:43:03.000 --> 00:43:04.000 to the Texas wildlife folks 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.000 on time so we finally worked 00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:08.000 out a deal that I took their 00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:10.000 indirect cost in my office 00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.000 did it for them everyone was 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:13.000 happy except the chair that 00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:15.000 of the department who wanted the money 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.000 but all reports got in they got 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:18.000 to continue doing their things 00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:19.000 but it paid for my me to 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:20.000 have a part time person in 00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.000 there to process their receipts 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:26.000 rivers with fish in it to 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:27.000 see what lived in it and that sort of 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:30.000 thing but -- but that there 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.000 are strategies if if they can 00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.000 be used to rethink the kinds 00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:36.000 of support you provide on 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.000 compliance it doesn't all have 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:39.000 to fall on the faculty member 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.000 if if people are willing to 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:43.000 share the pie differently if that 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.000 makes sense that one's probably 00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:46.000 a little weird communication 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.000 systems I personally like -- 00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.000 face to face meetings if it's 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.000 important I don't think faculty 00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:58.000 or staff or myself read all 00:43:58.000 --> 00:43:59.000 the billions of emails that 00:43:59.000 --> 00:43:60.000 come through that have the 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.000 same logo at the top your first 00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.000 thing is oh it's another one 00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:04.000 of those -- then you find out 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:05.000 two weeks later oh I should 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.000 have read that one right -- 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:08.000 so if it's important or if an 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:09.000 important decision has to be 00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:10.000 made I think it's important 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:12.000 that -- there's at least one 00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:13.000 live meeting that everybody 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.000 talks about it this email will 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:16.000 be coming out it's got a qualtric 00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:18.000 survey attached to it 00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:19.000 our survey monkey or whatever 00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:21.000 you use where you're going 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:22.000 to vote on something and you 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:23.000 need to understand why it's 00:44:23.000 --> 00:44:26.000 important and then once -- 00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.000 same page -- I hope that makes 00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.000 sense -- see if there's anything else 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.000 there -- it looks like there 00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:35.000 is lots of room for to develop 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.000 more research capacity but also 00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.000 projects fee for service type 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.000 projects workshops that people 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.000 attend in different fields -- I 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.000 learned today about -- I guess 00:44:47.000 --> 00:44:50.000 there is a -- the airstreams 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:52.000 come into town and are we doing 00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.000 anything to have them come 00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:54.000 over I know when I was at 00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:55.000 Idaho they had the RVs 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:57.000 all park in the Kibbie Dome 00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:58.000 parking lot and they did 00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:61.000 programs for them all week long -- 00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:03.000 and they paid for it -- because 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:04.000 there's not much else to do in 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.000 Moscow Idaho and -- and so that 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:08.000 goes with some some things 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.000 we could look at strengthen 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.000 our community college partnerships 00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:13.000 we wanna get undergrad so we 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.000 can get grads so you can get more 00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:16.000 graduate students usually have 00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:18.000 to more undergraduate students 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:19.000 and so that was just having 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:20.000 a presence on those campuses 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.000 one day a week -- and -- and 00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.000 and actually in Texas at some 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:26.000 of the community colleges are 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:27.000 actually feeders for multiple 00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:28.000 universities and so Monday 00:45:28.000 --> 00:45:29.000 it was Stephen F. Austin day 00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:30.000 and Tuesday we took 00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:31.000 their sign down put up ours 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:33.000 Wednesday Jarvis came 00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:34.000 in and put up there's -- but 00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:36.000 the point was is that those 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.000 kids knew we were there and 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:39.000 we would work with them and 00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:40.000 then I'm all about team work 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:41.000 and collaboration I believe in 00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:43.000 working in teams I think we're 00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:44.000 all smarter if you know there 00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.000 is no I in team when I coach 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:47.000 basketball right although I 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:48.000 had a really good point guard 00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:49.000 one time that he could've probably 00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:52.000 done it but anyway next one most 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:53.000 of this is undergraduate I 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:55.000 don't know how the financial 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:56.000 support works for graduate 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:57.000 students -- if they're all part time 00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:59.000 students I don't know but one 00:45:59.000 --> 00:45:60.000 of the things we found is we have a 00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.000 teacher scholarship it's not 00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:03.000 much like a couple hundred 00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:05.000 bucks but all teachers get it 00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:08.000 if they apply -- I'm not even 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:09.000 sure real money changes hands 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.000 anywhere I don't know how the 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:13.000 county office does that -- but 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.000 having incentives to get people 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:16.000 to want to come back to you 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:18.000 is very important -- I think 00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:21.000 the worst the most innovative 00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.000 way ever so is the university 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:23.000 of Miami University in Ohio 00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:25.000 at one time raised all their 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:27.000 tuition to be out of state but 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:28.000 they scholarshipped every in 00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.000 state student down to the in 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:31.000 state rate so every kid got 00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:33.000 this big scholarship but 00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:35.000 it was just on paper you know and 00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:37.000 so but it was it was effective 00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:38.000 and so interesting I'm not 00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:39.000 suggesting that but I'm just 00:46:39.000 --> 00:46:40.000 saying I've seen all sorts of 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:43.000 models let's see once again new 00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.000 and innovative degrees -- just 00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:46.000 creating another ed leadership 00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:47.000 degree or whatever is not 00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:48.000 going to do it you need to 00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:50.000 find cross connections that are 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:55.000 going to be interesting to -- 00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:57.000 constituents out there expand 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.000 revenue sources we've kind 00:46:59.000 --> 00:46:60.000 of talked about that earlier 00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.000 but you need more than just 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:03.000 grants you need more than just 00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:04.000 regular teaching you you've got 00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:05.000 to come up with other revenue 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.000 streams this gets back to once 00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:09.000 again -- provide professional 00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:11.000 development specific to advancing 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.000 university admission okay so it 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.000 is for you but the outcome is 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:17.000 we all still as a group need 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:19.000 to go that way if that's the 00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.000 right way we need to go that way so anyway 00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.000 I'm excited about your Salem 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:25.000 center everywhere I've been 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:27.000 we've had outreach centers 00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:28.000 some programs work better at 00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:29.000 outreach centers than others and 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.000 Tyler our outreach centers we 00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:32.000 have an engineering center in 00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:34.000 Houston that's all we do there 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.000 is engineering that we have 00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:37.000 almost more students there 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:38.000 that we have on the main campus 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.000 in engineering now okay and 00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:43.000 for that but -- Houston has 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.000 the largest community college 00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:46.000 population in the country 00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:47.000 three quarters of a million kids 00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.000 and they can either go to Rice 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.000 for engineering which isn't 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.000 gonna happen right because they 00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:56.000 transfers or the University of 00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:59.000 Houston which is full and so 00:47:59.000 --> 00:47:60.000 there was a need and we take 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:01.000 transfers A and M has a sort of 00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:03.000 a program there but once those 00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.000 kids finished two years at the 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:06.000 community college they have to go to 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.000 college station we get half of 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:09.000 those kids because they get to 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:12.000 stay in Houston okay and so so there 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.000 are things you can do -- at our 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:15.000 Longview and Palestine 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.000 centers besides having our lab 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.000 schools and education programs 00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:20.000 nursing are the big programs 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:21.000 but most of our other programs 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:23.000 wouldn't work there okay so it 00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:25.000 just depends on the size of the 00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:26.000 town and the niche and that 00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:27.000 sort of thing so but but these 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:29.000 can be very helpful I put the 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.000 world on there because you have 00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:32.000 access to the world if you use 00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:35.000 the internet and and -- I'd I 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.000 think as the tools get better 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:39.000 we do synchronous it doesn't all 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:40.000 have to be asynchronous there 00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:41.000 are lots of ways to do that 00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:43.000 to really provide a wonderful 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:49.000 learn and -- and I'd be happy 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:51.000 if we have a break some anxious 00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:52.000 folks -- my online graduate 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.000 courses I think I like them but 00:48:58.000 --> 00:48:60.000 I don't -- maybe they're okay I looked at 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:01.000 your degrees and this sort of 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:03.000 shows me where kids this is old 00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.000 the website so 2015 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:10.000 committee looks at these things 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.000 where can we grow the program 00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:14.000 right so if you look at your 00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:15.000 undergraduate and get your graduate 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.000 degrees over there I kind of 00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:18.000 work this way is if we have a 00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.000 lots of majors and we want them 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:21.000 to come back then we need to 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:22.000 look at this kind of data first 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.000 okay and so you've got your 00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.000 you got a big business program 00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:27.000 interdisciplinary studies I'm 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:29.000 not sure what that means is 00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:30.000 just sort of general studies 00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:33.000 degree that maybe there's a 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:35.000 way to focus them into an area 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:36.000 that at the graduate level 00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:38.000 to keep them -- you know four 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:41.000 plus one programs where you do 00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:42.000 a five year program and you walk 00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:43.000 out the door with your masters 00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:46.000 do much of that we did that in Idaho 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:47.000 we don't do much 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:49.000 of that Texas community health 00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:51.000 clearly exercise science 00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:52.000 criminal justice those all look 00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:53.000 like robust numbers that could 00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:56.000 be -- psychology -- they could 00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:57.000 again some of those have 00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:58.000 accreditation things you have 00:49:58.000 --> 00:49:60.000 to do live I understand that 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.000 but there are ways to do that 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:03.000 and then of course professional 00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:04.000 doctorates if that ever gets 00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:05.000 approved for you guys that 00:50:05.000 --> 00:50:07.000 that could be huge and then I 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.000 just kind of listed programs 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:11.000 and then the current graduate 00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:13.000 programs how do we some of the low 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:14.000 number ones how do we get those 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:15.000 numbers up and so what's what 00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:16.000 is the barrier that's keeping 00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.000 them from growing three minutes 00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:20.000 got it okay next slide you can skip 00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.000 that that's just your list of degrees 00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:23.000 I just was looking at some 00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:24.000 of your data this is old but 00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:26.000 that's what was online it looks to 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.000 me like -- I'm I'm curious the 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:31.000 big drop in graduate degrees 00:50:31.000 --> 00:50:32.000 in 2018 maybe 00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:34.000 the data set if if that was 00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:37.000 structural if that was -- so anyway 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:39.000 the point I'm trying to make is that 00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:40.000 I'm data driven I'm gonna look 00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:41.000 at the dashboards I want to 00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:43.000 know what's going on hopefully 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.000 department chairs and faculty 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:47.000 are looking at the data because 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:48.000 the data can inform you as to 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:52.000 where -- there are either issues or 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.000 this the the world is changing 00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:56.000 and we need to change with it 00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:57.000 and we do this at the public school 00:50:57.000 --> 00:50:59.000 level too -- that's what we 00:50:59.000 --> 00:50:61.000 do we look at data and I kind of 00:51:01.000 --> 00:51:03.000 looked at the dollars -- -- and 00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:04.000 and there's not a detail for me 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:05.000 to really tell from your -- 00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:06.000 institutional research website 00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:08.000 but but those things are all 00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:09.000 important you know sometimes 00:51:09.000 --> 00:51:10.000 you make decisions based on 00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:12.000 those starts over there and you have 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.000 to and that's just reality 00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.000 but if everyone sees the same 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:17.000 data sets often we will come 00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:19.000 to the same conclusions and 00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:21.000 so having everybody look at 00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:22.000 those is one way I kind of do 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.000 business is here's what the data 00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:26.000 is saying is the data wrong -- 00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:29.000 can we fix this or has this taken 00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:32.000 too much time next one I looked at 00:51:32.000 --> 00:51:33.000 your faculty development site 00:51:33.000 --> 00:51:35.000 and the research institute 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:36.000 and looks like there's a lot 00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:37.000 of services already offered 00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.000 and it'd be interesting to hear 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:40.000 if they're not meeting your 00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:41.000 needs how do we make that 00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:43.000 better there aren't a lot of 00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.000 pots of money and careful 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:46.000 because the provost's in the room I 00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:48.000 guess yeah but but so how are we 00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:49.000 gonna find how to invest more 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:51.000 in faculty if it's possible 00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:58.000 and the next one the end questions 00:51:58.000 --> 00:51:61.000 that was a lot sorry 00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:02.000 applause